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Old 26 Aug 2011, 12:10 am
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so talking to some other guys in a different thread about wanting a faster car. yea i have the na pt. yea im a 18 year old. so yea a na going slow is
so i was wondering how you guys made your cars faster and also lighter. im going to college right now and need one of my back seats. yes one of them is out and in my bedroom closet at the apartment. how else have you made the car lighter? every time i think about it i look at the spare tire and say how the hell do you get that out of there. so can someone answer my 3 questions... how to make the pt faster, how to make it lighter, and how to remove spare tire and holder.
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Old 26 Aug 2011, 12:15 am
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Remove anything you can from the PT that's non-essential such as;

carpet, radio, motors for your doors windows, rear wiper motor, replace hood and hatch with carbon fiber pieces (get a hatch with no rear shield or something other than glass).

Getting the spare tire out is easy.

Open rear hatch.

Looking down closest to you, you'll see a small plastic 'tab' that can be popped off to your right.

You'll see a bolt there, use your included tire wrench to undo the bolt.

This will bring the cage where the spare tire is in lower and lower.

Do this until you can take the cage off the 'hook' at the end.

Remove spare tire, remove cage, done.

Pray you don't get a flat anywhere you go!
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Old 26 Aug 2011, 12:19 am
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i have aaa and i really do not like the look of those tires. they dont look safe to even put under a car that small and thin of a tire. so there for if i get a flat, knock on wood, i will call aaa. and i took the wrench out and jack the first day so im really screwed. but knock on wood!
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Old 26 Aug 2011, 12:20 am
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i have aaa and i really do not like the look of those tires. they dont look safe to even put under a car that small and thin of a tire. so there for if i get a flat, knock on wood, i will call aaa. and i took the wrench out and jack the first day so im really screwed. but knock on wood!
Any socket/wrench that fits the bolt that's on your tire will fit the bolt that's holding the spare tire cage so no worries there.
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Old 26 Aug 2011, 12:27 am
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Didn't answer your first question about mods to get the most out of your car.

First, intake mod.

Then headers (4-2-1 headman) which is good for the lower end. Honda's do this all the time.

Third, exhaust (which goes with the second one, headers)

Fourth, another intake mod which is swapping in the composite intake manifold from a GT. The aluminum one is also an improvement from your stock N/A manifold but not as good as the GT composite. This one will require some work.

Fifth, underdrive pulley's which I've never seen/experienced in a PT but it works for other cars. I wouldn't do it if it were me.

Sixth, cams.

If that all doesn't satisfy you, sell your car and get a GT.
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Old 26 Aug 2011, 12:30 am
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your answer= engine swap. lol. but i didnt think headers would work cause back pressure. what about the stage one computer swap everyone talks about. my goal was to get different cams and port and polish the heads
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Old 26 Aug 2011, 12:35 am
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your answer= engine swap. lol. but i didnt think headers would work cause back pressure. what about the stage one computer swap everyone talks about. my goal was to get different cams and port and polish the heads
Engine swap wouldn't be economical in this case unless you absolutely love your car very much+found a good condition GT engine+tranny+can get the labor done for cheap for the swap and wiring.

As for the headers, 4-2-1 creates a 'scavenger' effect. Read up on it

And Stage 1 is only for turbo models, nothing to do with N/A PT's at all.

Porting and polishing the heads can only do so much. If you're set on doing all this and putting that much money into it, before you do so ask yourself this; what is your goal?

If you simply want a faster car, then buy yourself a faster car. You're only going to get so much power from your N/A PT. In the end, you might not like the result and you won't be able to turn around the PT to make up the time+money you've put into it.
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Old 26 Aug 2011, 12:38 am
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A PT's not exactly that kind of car.

You would need to lose LOTS and LOTS of weight to even get to 'zippy.'
The 2.4 block in early Neons, they weigh ~ 2400lbs. IMHO they aren't that quick. You'd need to not only remove aforementioned items, but liberally use tin snips, and this will make the vehicle a total jalopy.

I'd focus on the vehicle's theme, making it look custom / retro.
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Old 26 Aug 2011, 01:29 am
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If you like the PT, you can always try to find a PT GT with a blown turbo or bad engine and fix it...I've seen them go for as low as $1000 for an 03
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Old 26 Aug 2011, 09:31 am
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Default Re: someone needs to lose some extra poundage

i understand you are 18 but the bottom line is the naPT is NEVER going to
1 Get good MPG
2 Be Super Fast
3 Be way quicik

It is a cool looing retro car you can waste a lot of money and the end result is aPT that is not much diffrent that when you started and in my opinion driving without a jack and spare is way above stupid I have AAA as well and I use them some times Im not mucxh on waiting 3 hours for them to get to me and have you ever been where there is not Cell Service??? or where they do not ahve a Service person you might just want to rething that one but then again when you are 18 you pretty much know everything
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