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Old 11 Oct 2011, 04:34 pm
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Just bought a 2001 pt cruiser and it's nice looking... however, the person i bought it from did not tell me that the water pump was leaking..

So, 2 days later the car starts overheating..

I changed the thermostat (looked really bad when i took it out but was probably still good)

checked the hoses (hoses were fine)

took the radiator electric fan out and checked it doing the battery trick. (It turned on)

Checked the fuses, and the slots (all good)

Checked to see if the fan turned on when the cars ac was on and by itself (it does)

checked the radiator for leaks dirt etc.. had some kind of brown dirt type stuff in the radiator probably from some sealant used to camouflage the leak a little.

checked for leaks when the car was off ( none)

it leaks from the area where the timing belt/ water pump is... so i gathered it was the water pump since it only leaks when the car is running.

was quoted 680$ for the job but i don't have it... so..

Questions are...

1. is there some kind of hose or tubing in that area that could have gone bad?

2. if it's the water pump would i be able to do the job myself?
- this would mean dismantling everything else on the top where the cover is?

3. i should replace the timing belt as well? how do i time the car?

4. do i have to remove the AC tubes? or can i do the job without touching the ac system?

5. what are the complications if i mess up the job or put something in wrong or maybe backwards? lol


anything will help thanks again.
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Old 11 Oct 2011, 04:47 pm
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Sorry, in my opinion, if you have to ask a lot of those questions, you shouldn't try and do the water pump yourself. Even experienced mechanics have messed that job up. It has been done by numerous owners but most with a lot of experience.

It takes the same amount of time to change the timing belt as it does the water pump and that's why we tell everyone to do both at the same time. Your talking 5 to 7 hours if nothing goes wrong. What can go wrong? The timing being only 1/2 tooth off will cause you to do the whole job over again unless you don't mind having a ruff idle.

If you want to try it yourself, we have a few threads on how to do it and some tricks and short cuts. What else could be leaking in that area, don't think there is anything else but I could be wrong. Here's what it looks like but believe me, you'll never see the whole picture like this as there's only inches to work with.



The water pump is the cogged spindle on the right side near the oil dipstick.
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Old 11 Oct 2011, 06:18 pm
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CREWZIN is right! If you want to double check take it to a tech that you trust so they can put a pressure pump to test the psi in the coolant system, that way you can see where the water is coming from with out having the car running! I did my water pump and timing belt thinking it was the pump but the real problem was the seal in the termostat neck! The water was coming from there all the way down where the water pump is so it looks like it was the pump. I am experience working in cars but I did pay somebody to do the timing belt for me just to make sure the job was done right! I recomend you to do the same! Trying to save money can cost you more at the end! Good luck my friend!!!
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Hey CREWZIN - is that your engine? Looks like both cams are off by a tooth ... bet that didn't run right when installed
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Old 12 Oct 2011, 11:53 am
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im pretty sure that is NOT crewzins motor i dont think his has ever been out of his car
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Old 12 Oct 2011, 12:01 pm
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It's not the thermostat seal.

I jut read the instructions on taking it off.. jesus... really?

any short cuts?

I think i will sell it and stick to fords.. lol

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Old 12 Oct 2011, 01:17 pm
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Hey CREWZIN - is that your engine? Looks like both cams are off by a tooth ... bet that didn't run right when installed
that is the correct way for the cams to be lined up, the alignment lines on the gears are directly across from each other which has the teeth about a half tooth off from each other.
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Old 12 Oct 2011, 02:33 pm
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Hey CREWZIN - is that your engine? Looks like both cams are off by a tooth ... bet that didn't run right when installed
First, it's not my engine. Why would I take my engine out and put it on a stand?

Second, if you look closely, here's the same picture blown up and you can't get the cam markings any closer if you tried.

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Sure: Timing Belt Change Hints and Tricks (Picture Warning!)
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