PT Cruiser Forum  
       

Go Back   PT Cruiser Forum > General Forums > Tech & Performance Forum

PT Cruiser Forum

P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 18 Nov 2011, 08:29 pm
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3
Default P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

Hey guys, I've been reading and searching the forums to see what would be the best steps to get my 2004 (standard) pt cruiser running again. It's at 110K mileage.

My wife pulled out of the driveway, got to the stop sign and the car died. Check engine and oil lights came on. Car acts like it is trying to turn over, just no spark.

My question is this- Since there are two errors (crank shaft sensor & camshaft sensor I believe) does this actually point me to the timing belt? Is there a way to check to see if it is the belt and not the sensors?

Or is it best to get a Mopar Camshaft Position Sensor and try changing that first, since it is the easiest of the 3 to change out?

Any help is appreciated!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 18 Nov 2011, 09:04 pm
CREWZIN's Avatar
Obsessed Cruiser
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: West Central Florida
Posts: 23,878
Default Re: P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

It's almost a positive that it's your timing belt. The mileage and fault codes both fit the scenario. We've seen it time and time again.

One way to check is to take off the Camshaft sensor. There you can see the end of one of the cam shafts. Have someone try and start the car and you look to see if the camshaft is turning. It should turn unless the belt is broken.
__________________
......
...just CREWZIN along! . . . PT Cruiser Links Moderator
2000 PT. Original Owner, 118,000 miles
MY technical suggestions are given in GOOD FAITH without total guarantee, if in doubt go to a garage.
Visit My Home Page www.CREWZIN.com
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 19 Nov 2011, 03:33 pm
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3
Default Re: P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

Removed sensor and tried starting. Cam Shaft moves back and forth a bit, but it definitely isn't spinning. Guess that means tow it to a mechanic and pay 1k to get it fixed?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 19 Nov 2011, 03:38 pm
CREWZIN's Avatar
Obsessed Cruiser
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: West Central Florida
Posts: 23,878
Default Re: P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

Look around, try and find someone that has done it before and check out prices. It varies quite a bit. Parts (belt, water pump and new tensioner) run somewhere around $250-300. It's the labor that kills you. Water pump is 100K old so you might not think yo need it but it does wear out and it takes the same amount of time to change that as it does the belt. They changed the belt tensioner in 04 to a new style.
__________________
......
...just CREWZIN along! . . . PT Cruiser Links Moderator
2000 PT. Original Owner, 118,000 miles
MY technical suggestions are given in GOOD FAITH without total guarantee, if in doubt go to a garage.
Visit My Home Page www.CREWZIN.com
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 24 Aug 2012, 09:53 pm
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 6
Default Re: P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

Can it be fixed. Meaning if I replace the ware pump and tensioners and belt will I have any problems? From what I understood that if a belt breaks then you are up creek without a paddle because it messes up your valves and pistons?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 24 Aug 2012, 10:07 pm
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bayville, NJ
Posts: 22
Default Re: P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

There has been countless heated discussions regarding interference vs non interference style motors and timing belt repairs. All I can tell you is this. I've personally done 2 timing belts on 2 different PT's and neither one had an issue after the repair. Both motors were fine. If yours broke while at low speed or idle, you should be fine. Check out RockAuto Auto Parts for parts. They were reasonable and had a complete kit including the water pump.
__________________
2001 PT loaded to the max!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 24 Aug 2012, 10:14 pm
PeteyGT's Avatar
Cool Cruiser
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 338
Default Re: P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rylandrussell View Post
Hey guys, I've been reading and searching the forums to see what would be the best steps to get my 2004 (standard) pt cruiser running again. It's at 110K mileage.

My wife pulled out of the driveway, got to the stop sign and the car died. Check engine and oil lights came on. Car acts like it is trying to turn over, just no spark.

My question is this- Since there are two errors (crank shaft sensor & camshaft sensor I believe) does this actually point me to the timing belt? Is there a way to check to see if it is the belt and not the sensors?

Or is it best to get a Mopar Camshaft Position Sensor and try changing that first, since it is the easiest of the 3 to change out?

Any help is appreciated!
Those are the exact codes I recently got when my timing belt broke.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 24 Aug 2012, 10:19 pm
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 6
Default Re: P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

ok guys I will give it a go and replace the tensioners and belt and water pump. It was at a low speed that it stalled but I drove it about 110 miles right before it stalled. The reason I asked is I spoke to two people who both said that if it is the timing belt that if it breaks it leaves the valves open and they then cause the piston to bottom out on them as they should be closed in combustion. But I am with you fellas I hope it hasnt damaged anything. I will post once I have finished the work tomorrow.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 25 Aug 2012, 06:39 am
CREWZIN's Avatar
Obsessed Cruiser
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: West Central Florida
Posts: 23,878
Default Re: P0016 & P0340 - Recommendations?

As CrewChief said; the PT has a Non-interference engine. The pistons can't hit the valves when the belt breaks. IF you were at high speed (which you say you weren't) the opposing valves from each bank could hit each other but that very rarely happens.
__________________
......
...just CREWZIN along! . . . PT Cruiser Links Moderator
2000 PT. Original Owner, 118,000 miles
MY technical suggestions are given in GOOD FAITH without total guarantee, if in doubt go to a garage.
Visit My Home Page www.CREWZIN.com
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
2004, p0016, p0340, timing belt


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
code p0016 ptbruiser2003 Tech & Performance Forum 23 23 Oct 2013 01:44 am
P0016 Keep on trucking??? Shotgun33 Tech & Performance Forum 3 18 Jul 2011 04:35 pm
'04 with p0016 and p0344 codes-PLEASE help tsnapp52 Tech & Performance Forum 4 13 Jul 2009 01:41 pm
Help with PT codes p0016 & p0339 Tiltmfc Tech & Performance Forum 0 13 Jul 2008 09:12 am
Error Code P0016? tezz Turbo Performance 3 08 Jul 2003 11:36 am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:48 pm.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 © 2011, Crawlability, Inc.
vB.Sponsors