PT Cruiser Forum  
Advertisements
       

Go Back   PT Cruiser Forum > General Forums > Tech & Performance Forum

PT Cruiser Forum

Advertisements
this car is hard to steer with the belt off

 
Like Tree7Likes
  • 1 Post By NitroPT
  • 2 Post By NitroPT
  • 1 Post By CREWZIN
  • 2 Post By rob342
  • 1 Post By UptownSport

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06 Oct 2012, 04:55 pm
Veteran Cruiser
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: darien il
Posts: 4,592
Default this car is hard to steer with the belt off

i'm shocked how hard this car is to steer without power steering!

on mustangs we'd clip the power steering lines, crimp the tubes, and throw the compressors in the garbage. i expected it to be like that. it's NOT. LOL!

i took the belt off and went for a test drive because my tensioner is making the most god awful metal on metal grinding noise! the noise was so bad i was afraid something was going to seize, break the belt, poiisbly tangle or cause the alternator belt to jump off, and strand me.

so whatever.. found the problem. i figured i'd take the pulley off and replace it. well.. apparently the bolt that goes through the pulley is ridiculously long. after i unscrewed it an inch it(the bolt) hits the frame. grumble. so.. i pry the engine over as much as i can with a block of wood to gain clearance, get it out another 1/4" or so, but still can't get it out. whatever.. i put the bolt back in.

i use my super google skills to look for the size of the other bolt, the one i can't see. the one that holds the tensioner on.. well, i stumbled across a tip about supporting the engine with a jack and removing the center engine mount bolt in order to lower the engine and get more clearance. -i really hope i do not have to do that. also i never found the bolt size

heh. i do like the way i can feel the road better.
and
i was pleased to find the noise was coming from the cheapest possible part

:P

Last edited by rob342; 06 Oct 2012 at 05:13 pm.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06 Oct 2012, 05:21 pm
NitroPT's Avatar
Obsessed Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: USA kalyfornia
Posts: 15,819
Default Re: this car is hard to steer with the belt off

Hey rob342 I know that you know this but others may not so it is for those others.

If you run a power steering system like the one on the PT for very long without the aid of the pump you not only lose the hydraulic pressure multiplier but you also lose the circulation of power steering fluid throughout the steering mechanism. This loss of lubrication will cause the steering system to fail over time. Also because of the difficulty in turning and reacting to possible evasive steering maneuvers your mechanical steering reaction time is reduced.
Busted_PT likes this.
__________________
To view larger pictures simply "click " on the picture!

Dalai Lama
"Share you knowledge. It's the best way to achieve immortality."
ASE MASTER TECHNICIAN

Last edited by NitroPT; 06 Oct 2012 at 05:25 pm.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06 Oct 2012, 06:54 pm
NitroPT's Avatar
Obsessed Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: USA kalyfornia
Posts: 15,819
Default Re: this car is hard to steer with the belt off

rob342 @ week 2 with the upper body fitness program #5 no power steering belt 20 minute work out.

UptownSport and rob342 like this.
__________________
To view larger pictures simply "click " on the picture!

Dalai Lama
"Share you knowledge. It's the best way to achieve immortality."
ASE MASTER TECHNICIAN
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06 Oct 2012, 07:10 pm
Veteran Cruiser
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: darien il
Posts: 4,592
Default Re: this car is hard to steer with the belt off

i see the pulley for $26 at autozone. hopefully i can find it in stock somewhere tomorrow (:
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07 Oct 2012, 05:10 am
Teska's Avatar
Fanatic Cruiser
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Genk, Belgium
Posts: 990
Default Re: this car is hard to steer with the belt off

My power steering failed on me once and I had to drive about two weeks without. I couldn 't let my wife drive it cause it's simply impossible to turn the wheel without some amount of (male) force.

In my case it suddenly started wordking again after a mechanic looked at it and did nothing but look. It's still working nowadays, it's only hard steering on idle.
__________________
PT Cruiser 05 base 1,6 liter Electric blue.
Natural gas system build in.
Lowered with FK coilovers.
Installed Mopar sub !
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07 Oct 2012, 09:09 am
compdr59's Avatar
Fanatic Cruiser
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 543
Default Re: this car is hard to steer with the belt off

Flush the power steering fluid while your working on the car. Use ATF +4. All major auto parts stores should have your idler pulley. The bolt barely cleared for removal, so I didn't have to remove the entire tensioner assembly. You can always order one RockAuto too.
__________________

Original Owner 135k
2005 Turbo Touring Convertible Auto w/ Stage 1, DSP inTune w/ Diablo Tune, Composite Intake, Air Box Modification, Hard Pipes, K&N, KYB's, Vision Motorworks Wires, Continental Extreme Contact DWS, Rear Sway Bar, Strut Tower Bar, UltraGauge.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07 Oct 2012, 10:07 am
Obsessed Cruiser
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 27,744
Default Re: this car is hard to steer with the belt off

My Power Steer Pump went out at about 30K, just after the warranty ran out. I guess it was just before a right hand turn and when I tried making that turn it felt like i was driving an 18-wheeler Mack truck. Almost didn't make it around and headed towards the concrete center divider. Fortunately my adrenalin kicked in and was able the pull the steering wheel around to miss the divider.
UptownSport likes this.
__________________
Rules of the forum have been updated as of *07/07/2019* Please read them over.

- All decisions by the Moderator are semi-permanent, can and may be changed at his discretion but definitely will be the final word. Any action performed by the Administrator or Moderators are not to be discussed on the forum.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11 Oct 2012, 03:03 pm
Veteran Cruiser
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: darien il
Posts: 4,592
Default Re: this car is hard to steer with the belt off

i just fixed the tensioner and put the belt back on. it's weird! it's so easy to turn it reminds me of driving my friends '84 cadillac with the pimp knob on the wheel. it's amazing how easily the tensioner is removed with the car up on a lift.

i did not get any sore or bigger muscles from the week of hard steering. yesterday i did get a cab driver glaring at me in disgust while i wrenched on the wheel to parallel park, you know while accidentally hitting the horn, wipers, and signal.
OurPTGT and UptownSport like this.

Last edited by rob342; 11 Oct 2012 at 03:18 pm.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11 Oct 2012, 03:13 pm
UptownSport's Avatar
Veteran Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 55403
Posts: 3,912
Default Re: this car is hard to steer with the belt off

ROFL!!

Shut mine off and figured I'd 'cruze' into a park spot on armstrong steering.
Definitely didn't feel like Popeye for those two seconds
OurPTGT likes this.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Timing belt tensioner is giving me a hard time damilleniumboy Tech & Performance Forum 5 24 Nov 2011 08:57 am
TIMING BELT HARD TO GET ON Cruz2success Tech & Performance Forum 1 13 Sep 2011 10:32 pm
power steer cruizinla Tech & Performance Forum 1 29 Dec 2008 10:24 pm
torque steer GTSteve Tech & Performance Forum 2 24 Sep 2003 01:18 am
torque steer Punch Turbo Performance 9 07 Sep 2003 08:18 pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:48 am.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 © 2011, Crawlability, Inc.
vB.Sponsors