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Old 11 Nov 2012, 01:46 pm
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Default Timing Belt, water pump and radiator success.

I just want to say a huge thanks to everyone who posts advise and tips here on the forum, especially for those who go above and beyond and take pics and advanced How-To topics.

I just finished replacing the timing belt and radiator and I can't believe the amount of work involved for someone who is attempting this for the first time. I can't count how many times I had to jack the engine up and down. Even though I was careful, I still managed to break the ECU connector. After I finished the timing belt and water pump last night, I still had the radiator to do this morning. Unfortunately the plug I had inserted into the transmission cooling hose popped out and when I went into the garage this morning, I was greeted with a transmission fluid covered floor. So, with a ample amount of kitty litter spread all over, I finished the radiator this afternoon. Everything is now back together and the car started right up and sounded very smooth.Hopefully it will stay that way.

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Congrats you just saved a ton of money! Also you just raised your skill level.
Just started this job on my Project car this afternoon myself.
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Old 11 Nov 2012, 11:17 pm
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Default Re: Timing Belt, water pump and radiator success.

How did you fix the broken ECU connector?

How long did it take you to do the whole job?
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Old 12 Nov 2012, 01:55 pm
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Well, my success was short lived. After adding coolant and ATF this morning, I let the car run for about 20 minutes while everything warmed up. All seemed well, so I went for a test drive. I didn't get more than a few kilometres when the CEL came on and the engine died and would not restart. I just got towed home and checked the codes. The only one showing was P1391 which could be a cam or crank sensor, or related wiring. Before I get led down the garden path, is it possible that the problem could be associated with my work on the timing belt? Will I have to get back into the timing belt area?
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Old 12 Nov 2012, 10:59 pm
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Default Re: Timing Belt, water pump and radiator success.

It's unlikely you would have disturbed either sensor with the timing belt change, but perhaps their connection back to the ECU isn't good?
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Check the wiring to see if it is damaged to the sensors.
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I think that the raising and lowering of the engine may have damaged the wiring. Also, it is possible that with me breaking the plastic cover on the ECU connector, a wire could have been damaged there as well. I will have a look this evening after work.

Another thing that I noticed is that since the car stopped running, it sounds like there is no compression when I turn the engine over. This has me puzzled because it started right up when I put everything back together. If I didn't get the timing belt lined up properly, I would have expected it to not start at all, or be very rough. I think I will go ahead and pull the upper timing belt cover to see if something has slipped.

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Old 13 Nov 2012, 01:05 pm
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Perhaps the tensioner wasn't installed correctly and lost tension or over tensioned and snapped the belt? Did you use the new-style or old-style tensioner?

You should be able to pull the cam sprocket cover off and take a quick look to see what's going on. I agree a timing belt failure seems like the likely explanation.
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Old 13 Nov 2012, 03:43 pm
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OK, pulled the cover and everything ise lined up with no problems. I placed #1 cylinder at TDC. I had to use a dowel in the sparkplug hole as I didn't have time to go and get the harmonic balancer puller from the autoparts store. The cam sprockets are lined up and the belt has good tension. I don't have a compression guage, so I can't get any cylinder compression readings. The no compression idea is just my thoughts from the sound the engine makes when it turns over. Is there a way that I could check compression without a guage?

Since I did get a P1391 error when the engine shut down, I will head back in that direction. I pulled the crankshaft position sensor connector and the wiring there seems fine. Also, the wiring at the ECU also looks good. I've read that there should be 5 volts at the crankshaft sensor.

I realize I'm bouncing around a bit, but I wanted to rule out my work with the timing belt before moving to the sensors.
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Old 13 Nov 2012, 06:43 pm
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I see what you're saying.

Any chance the spark plugs just aren't torqued down properly? 18 lb ft IIRC.
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