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Old 10 Jan 2013, 12:56 pm
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Default Where to find deep and/or finned transmission pan?

I have a 2004 PT cruiser with the standard 4 cyl and a 2000 Grand Voyager minivan V6 with a 3.0. The issue I'm having is actually with the van, these are notorious for transmissions that overheat. It turned out that the transmission pan for my PT and the Van are the same so I used the Dorman, drain plug equiped pan that I bought for the PT and put it on the van so I can easily change the fluid more often and make the trans last longer. I cannot verify if the transmissions are interchangeable but I can verify that the pan is. The van has a factory auxilary transmission cooler but I'd like to add a deep pan as well, hopefully a finned one. These vans han hold a lot of cargo and people but the transmissions don't hold up to the task without some serious cooling.
Does anyone know of a deep and/or finned transmission pan that's available for the PT cruiser? I'm pretty sure they don't make one specifically for the van.
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Old 10 Jan 2013, 01:10 pm
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There are no deep pans available for the Auto transmission fitted to the PT or any other model Chrysler model vehicle using the same transmission. There are aftermarket stamped steel pans for around $50 that come with a drain plug. You can also get a drain plug kit that will work in most any fluid pan configuration. Just type "b&m oil drain plug kit" on your search engine to find many of them.


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Thank you but I am already running the Dorman standard depth steel pan with the drain plug. While that makes fluid changes easier I am now looking for a deep aluminum pan with cooling fins. But as you said there doesn't seem to be any available.
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Pretty sure the van's transmission is 41te - it was the PT auto trans for all PTs until '03, and for all turbo auto PTs. The PT you have has a 40TE - same tranny, but with 2 versus 4 clutch packs. I'd look at a way to plumb in an additional trans oil cooler.
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Pretty sure the van's transmission is 41te - it was the PT auto trans for all PTs until '03, and for all turbo auto PTs. The PT you have has a 40TE - same tranny, but with 2 versus 4 clutch packs. I'd look at a way to plumb in an additional trans oil cooler.
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If you refer to the thread I recommended you would also see that one of the mods was to install an auxiliary transmission fluid pump. This was regulated by primarily a temperature switch to come on at 190*. This increases the amount of fluid the effectively passes through the transmission cooler.


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You could make you a steel one as nitro was trying to say. But I would opt for a used pan from a junk yard or trany shop to cut for the project. Save you some bucks.
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as they said add an auxiliary fluid cooler to suppliment the stock one
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A better thought if considering the cooler end is to remove the OEM cooler completely and replace with a Transmission cooler design like Hi-Tech oil coolers instead of the conventional style tube and fin coolers.
The pumps in the stock transmission do not like the extra resistance of fluid pressure by to large a cooler. You could actually lose need fluid pressure if not carefully doing all the considerations.
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I thought about adding a bigger auxilary cooler but there is little room in front of the AC condensor. I also thought about adding a remote cooler with a fan but I don't want to overwhelm the pump for the cooling lines.
There's also the option of adding an electric pump like nitro said but the only one I saw was for RV towing use and the price was around $800
With the turbo PT's I was hoping the aftermarket would have made what I'm looking for to fit that car. I also looked under SRT-4 Neon but it appears they were all manual transmission?
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I also looked under SRT-4 Neon but it appears they were all manual transmission?
Yes, SRT-4 was manual only
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