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Old 11 Jan 2013, 02:55 pm
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Ok just to make a story short, I had just pulled out of someone yards and got up to about 50 mph. I lost power and then the car shut off and would not crank. I got the codes above , I have the haynes manual and only one of the codes is listed. It states camshaft or crankshaft sensor bad. Well I had autozone look up the same two codes and they told me it was timing belt or camshaft sensor. Whats the odds of me bending a valve at that speed if the timing is broke and have anyone had these codes and not be timing belt? I had an uncle also tell me timing belt because their is no compression. Turns very easy when trying to crank. Thanks

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I guess the only real question is if you could have bent a valve or two when the belt went out since you already know that's the problem. We (you) have a non-interference engine so normally no internal damage when the belt breaks. However, the free spinning opposing valves (when the belt goes) can hit each other when your at high speed. Is 50 mph high speed? Good question. Sounds like you won't be able to tell till it's back together.
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Old 11 Jan 2013, 03:54 pm
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Crewzin, I'm not 100% sure that's the problem, but I will say this. You know the cover on timing belt at the top on left side of motor. My uncle could see and feel the timing belt, but when I try to crank it won't move. Also I just hit 150k 2 days before this happen.
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150K and the belt has never been changed? Yea, your lucky it lasted that long. 100% chance it's the belt that went bye bye. The belt probably shredded and is wrapped around something (tensioner?) and won't let anything move.
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Old 11 Jan 2013, 04:34 pm
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I'm second owner, and I was told it was changed but you know how that goes..
Do anyone know how much the dealer charge for this job. Two local mech want 265-350 just for labor. My thing don't wont to pay for a half a$$ job when it might not cost to much more a better job.
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Bad news for ya. I wouldn't trust anyone that only charged that much. The dealer wants somewhere around $1200 with parts. It's a 5-7 hour job and if they don't know what they're doing, it'll be screwed up and need to be done all over again.

These local men, have they done the job before, any references? Have they even seen a PT before? I would think they don't know what's involved in the PT timing belt. Be very careful.
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Old 11 Jan 2013, 05:23 pm
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Only one of them that I know have worked on pt cruisers and he told me it would be an all day job. Yea, I am worried about the job for the price... Still trying to get all the information before I decide.
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At least that sounds like he knows what he's doing. Good luck.
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Old 11 Jan 2013, 05:33 pm
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Last note family referred me to both mechanics maybe that has something to do with price but I didn't think that much. Thanks for the information
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