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Old 08 Sep 2013, 08:45 pm
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So I did some work on the front of my 2006 automatic PT:
Pulled the hand brake.
Chocked the back wheels.
Jacked up the front.
Placed jack stands.

When I was done working:
Pulled the jack stands.
Jacked it down.
Removed the wheel chocks
Released the hand brake.

Result:
The drivers side, rear wheel seized up, would barely turn.
Drove like crap.

Diagnosed the problem further and it appears the hand brake did not release on that side.
Took the tire off.
Popped the drum and sure enough the hand brake did not release.
After a bit of fiddling I decided to remove the entire rear drum shoe assembly and reinstall it.

Runs smooth like silk now.

Only one problem.

The brake pedal travels very far before braking begins.

I have not experienced this before and I have done a dozen rear brake jobs.

Anyone know what I did wrong or what I should be looking at to get it back to normal?

Thanks for any input, it is most appreciated.
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Old 08 Sep 2013, 09:00 pm
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Question Re: Brake Pedal Travel

You didn't mention checking the fluid level,or bleeding the system when you were done?.......Sounds like there may be air in the brake system.
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Old 08 Sep 2013, 09:57 pm
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You didn't mention checking the fluid level,or bleeding the system when you were done?.......Sounds like there may be air in the brake system.
I did check the fluid level and it's good, no change over what it was before the problem.
I didn't bleed the brakes because I did not open an airway during the repair.

The brake cylinder piston did slide back and forth a bit during the re-install.
Could this introduce air into the system?

Thanks for the help
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Old 08 Sep 2013, 10:29 pm
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One things for sure;It couldn't hurt to bleed the brakes,and you obviously know how easy it is to do(with someone to push the brake pedal).....That way it eliminates that as a problem for sure.
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Old 08 Sep 2013, 10:43 pm
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One things for sure;It couldn't hurt to bleed the brakes,and you obviously know how easy it is to do(with someone to push the brake pedal).....That way it eliminates that as a problem for sure.
I will have to make some arrangements to get the second person.
But if I can't find anything else wrong I will give bleeding a shot.

Thanks again.
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Old 08 Sep 2013, 10:47 pm
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I will have to make some arrangements to get the second person.
LOL.....That's often been my problem when it's time to bleed brakes,or clutch!
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Old 09 Sep 2013, 02:19 am
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Bob; did you adjust the brakes after you put the drum on? I would look at the emergency brake cable for damage or sticking. Go slow and be right, brakes are important!

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Old 09 Sep 2013, 03:14 pm
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Bob; did you adjust the brakes after you put the drum on? I would look at the emergency brake cable for damage or sticking. Go slow and be right, brakes are important!
Yes by going in reverse and pulling the hand brake, after that it is self adjusting.
As well if I put the PT in neutral it rolls freely back and forth. So the brakes both front and rear are not binding.

Thanks for the input.
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Default Re: Brake Pedal Travel

I have found that whenever I push in a brake piston, the brake pedal has lots of travel for the first number of tries when I'm done - I push pedal, let it up, push again, slowly, and each time the pedal "grabs" a little higher up.
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Old 11 Sep 2013, 10:22 am
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I have found that whenever I push in a brake piston, the brake pedal has lots of travel for the first number of tries when I'm done - I push pedal, let it up, push again, slowly, and each time the pedal "grabs" a little higher up.
Thanks for the reply

I understand what you mean, that's just the brake piston taking up it's normal space again.
In any case, my pedal even after pumping, continues to travel farther then I would like.
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