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Old 06 Nov 2013, 04:33 pm
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I know there are several threads regarding PT cruisers overgeating and possible problems and solutions. My question is this: Recently took out 2002 pt cruisers to our local garage after it was overheating. Had been told by several people that the fan wasn't kicking in, even when the air con was switched on. Left it with the mechanic who phoned not long after to say the water pump wasn't working. When I asked about the fan he told me the fan wouldn't kick in if the pump wasn't working so without replacing the pump he couldn't tell. Low and behold the pump was replaced but the fan dowsn't work.
SO. If he had tackled some of the problems mentioned on here about problems with the cooling fans such as faulty wiring and relays would it still have not functioned if the pump was broken?
Sorry if this is a bit long winded but want to have some ammo before I go to see him and ask why £700 later the car still has the same problem.
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Old 06 Nov 2013, 05:09 pm
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your mechanic is absolutely wrong. the fan, if working properly, would work even if there was no water pump. you didn't mention how much he raped you for the water pump job. i would contact the bbb. i would also demand my money back from the thief. the water pump replacement should have taken about 8 hours to do, the same amount of time it takes to do the timing belt.

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i see he charged you 700 euros.
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The water pump has no control over the fan. This is a lessen next time to look for your chosen shops certifications hanging on the wall. I all to often read and hear about "mechanics" in a world where it should be a trained Auto Technician performing diagnostics's and repairs on vehicle manufactured from 1996 and newer OBDII and/or CAN bus equip. Look for the proudly displayed certifications next time. Anything generally ASE is a good start to being in a better experienced shop.

As for your fan you should start with the basic's i.e. fuses and relays and then manually jump the fan leads to see if the fan is working. Anything beyond this point given what you have posted I recommend to locate a different shop as I described?
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Thanks folks. Good information to have at hand. £700 was for the pump they said needed replacing, head gasket and cam belt.
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If it is any consolation, the timing belt on your 02 was probably due for change as preventive maintenance and the head gasket may have need replacement as well if the engine had badly overheated...700 quid for a timing belt, water pump, and head gasket doesn't seem too outrageous. Unfortunately, however, you are still stuck with the original problem...the electric fan needs to be repaired or you will continue to overheat. As others have mentioned, the water pump and electric fan are not interconnected.
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If it is any consolation, the timing belt on your 02 was probably due for change as preventive maintenance and the head gasket may have need replacement as well if the engine had badly overheated...700 quid for a timing belt, water pump, and head gasket doesn't seem too outrageous. Unfortunately, however, you are still stuck with the original problem...the electric fan needs to be repaired or you will continue to overheat. As others have mentioned, the water pump and electric fan are not interconnected.
All true, but the fact remains the mechanic is of questionable worth because an electric fan has no dependence on a mechanical water pump.
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