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Old 14 Jan 2014, 09:11 pm
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Hello everyone, i am new to the forum. We picked up a PT Cruiser with the 2.4 Turbo / Auto combo. Owner told me the car has been over heating, eating coolant, and smoking from under the hood. The car had been sitting for about 3 weeks once i finally came to get it, so i fired it up to check it out. Fired right up, no smoke from the exhaust. Hitting on all 4; the engine itself sounds very healthy. The oil is clean from any water or antifreeze. All that i can notice is that the coolant fill starts to boil over within 2-3 minutes of the car running, and this is at ~30*F degrees out. There is also a watery-oil substance that seems to be inside of the coolant fill tube, however the water/coolant that begins to over flow is not the same substance, im not sure if this is residual build up, etc.

I am more than confident i can tackle just about anything that needs to be done, aslong as i can do it all with typical shop tools, and without a lift. I DO have a decent size electronic cherry picker, and tall jack stands. Tool's are not an issue.

Any and all advice is much appreciated, i need to tackle this thing asap. I will post a picture of the 'gunk' i had found.

Thanks all!
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Old 14 Jan 2014, 10:02 pm
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Check the power steering reservoir. See if you see anything there.
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My opinion - head gasket.
Do water pump and timing belt while you take the head off....
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Default Re: Oil in Coolant, headgasket?

I will take a look at the power steering reservoir tomorrow.

I felt more than likely a head gasket also. Is there any literature on tips and tricks when doing one on a PT? Can i do it with the car on the k member, working out of the engine bay? How fun is the timing belt? :P

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Alright guys, i tore into the top today. Yanked the intake, and the thermostat housing.

I followed the coolant routing, and it looks that anti freeze runs into the turbo. I know we figured the head or head gasket, but there is almost straight oil in the main water jacket ... take a look in the pics below

Is there any possibility the turbo took a dump, and the head/gasket are fine?
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Alright guys, i tore into the top today. Yanked the intake, and the thermostat housing.

I followed the coolant routing, and it looks that anti freeze runs into the turbo. I know we figured the head or head gasket, but there is almost straight oil in the main water jacket ... take a look in the pics below

Is there any possibility the turbo took a dump, and the head/gasket are fine?
More likely to be the cooler that the oil filter screws on. If it's turbo related. How does the oil look on the dip stick?
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Dip stick looks to be clean. ill drain the crank case tomorrow to verify.

If its clean, could the head/gasket be causing this still?
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Dip stick looks to be clean. ill drain the crank case tomorrow to verify.

If its clean, could the head/gasket be causing this still?
Pull the oil filler cap on the valve cover. I'm thinking maybe the oil cooler at the oil filter. I have heard of them leaking but not sure of the particular symptoms.
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