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Old 31 Aug 2014, 01:20 pm
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Of course, this car (2004 touring turbo lite) has been FLAWLESS up to today ( moving day). Started up normally this morning. Did a carload to the new place.
At the new place started OK. Back to the old place, loaded it up again.

WON'T START! :-(

It sort of makes a clacking sound, to me it sounds heavier than a normal low-battery ticking.
Could the starter be JAMMED?

Is there any known quick fix for this sort of thing (put it in gear and roll it slightly, etc)??

Its SUNDAY, and tomorrow is a holiday - could be the worst day ever to have a crippled car blocking the driveway of the place I'm supposed to be moving out of. And I still have six or eight car-loads of stuff to move!

Can anyone offer any hints? I might have a friend with jumper cables over in an hour or so...
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Old 31 Aug 2014, 01:31 pm
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Default Re: Stuck Starter? Clacking / Ticking...

Usually any starter related clicking is the starter solenoid, but a low battery would do the same. Check your battery cables & see if a jump will work...also check the starter wires.

If you have a stick shift, put it in 2nd have someone push you than pop the clutch.
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Thanks the tip, it is an automatic though.

here is a little video of the sound...

2004 PT Cruiser Touring turbo lite - won't start... - YouTube
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Could be
Dirty battery terminals
end of life battery
How many miles
did you say you changed the timing belt per recomendation at 100,000?
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Well, I am guessing battery EOL (hopefully)

Didn't get any trouble codes on the key dance. I put a trickle charger on it for an hour ( twas all I had handy) and it fired right up! :-)

Took it over to my friends house, where he put it on a proper battery charger for me. I was planning to visit him anyway, as I needed to borrow his pickup truck - the one thing that wouldn't fit in the PT (with back seat out) was my bed. Anyway, I am hoping the now-charged-up battery will last me 'til Tuesday (Monday being a holiday and all...)
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Well, after a couple hours on a bigger charger, the car has been starting fine all evening. But I notice that the RADIO is not powering on anymore. (It was working right up until the last time I shut the car off this morning!)

I wonder if something in my brand new radio shorted out, and drained my battery - before finally blowing its fuse... Guess I'll be looking at that next week, after I finish a few days of 'unpacking'!

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If your moving trips were short, probably not enough distance to restore the charge you took out of the battery to start the car, so after a few trips, the battery was drained
Radio is often ignition switch - also try moving tilt steering wheel, sometimes it's a connector in steering column that gets pulled.
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If your moving trips were short, probably not enough distance to restore the charge you took out of the battery to start the car, so after a few trips, the battery was drained
Radio is often ignition switch - also try moving tilt steering wheel, sometimes it's a connector in steering column that gets pulled.
I think you missed in their last post that the brand new just installed radio is not working. That would have been great info to have in the first post. Sounds like wiring gone wrong.
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I'm thinking there were some awesome coincidences going on - it's still a bit of a mystery, but CAR RUNS FINE NOW, and ...

A few minutes ago, I opened up the dash and pulled the car radio out, to check it's internal fuse. It's fuse was OK, (which was a bit worrisome!) but after I put it back in and hooked up the harness, the radio beeped and came back to life just fine. So perhaps this radio has an internal over-voltage-protection circuit inside, and I just needed to completely remove it from power to re-set it. (I'm guessing it may have shut itself down due to a voltage jump last week - when I had the car on a battery charger...)

So what all was this? I'm guessing:

1) very weak old (possibly original!) battery with heat-stress
2) lots of drain during multiple short trips ... windows going up and down (it was 95F HOT!), dome lights on for extended time (doors left open loading & unloading)
3) radio's built-in voltage overload circuit probably kicked in during one of the two different battery charger events (it might have got a spike from sparking...)

The "radio" really being a small multi-core ARM CPU hooked up to 5 different analogue subsystems, I wouldn't doubt if it has over-voltage protection
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I would first take the caps off the top of the battery and fill it with distilled water if any of the cells are low. I would take a voltage meter and make sure the alternator is charging 14 to 14.5 volts with the car running.
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