Later model PT performance

[gothamcop]

I have a 2002 base PT with a manual transmission and 185,000 miles. I find it to be pretty quick. I just test drove a 2008 manual with 58,000 miles and it seems somewhat slower. The dealer said the mileage and EPA requirements might cause them to lose power. Any comments??

[cruserdad1976]

2.4 is a 2.4 the weight is pretty close the tranny may be diffrent not sure
im guessing your is a NON turbo??? thats about the only diffrence and its a big one the Non turbo vs a turbo
otherwise they are kind of the same car and the MPG s should be close no added emissions that i know of

[gothamcop]

Both 2002 (mine) & 2008 are base models. Both manual trans. Why does the 2008 seem to have less power?

[LionPT]

Originally Posted by gothamcop

Both 2002 (mine) & 2008 are base models. Both manual trans. Why does the 2008 seem to have less power?

As far as I know, it shouldn't...it just might be that particular car.

[CREWZIN]

Originally Posted by LionPT

As far as I know, it shouldn't...it just might be that particular car.

LionPT is correct. There shouldn't be a lot of differences between the two generations of PTs if they have the same tranny. A stick shift might make a small difference and of course the way the car was taken care of could affect the performance but other than that they should be about the same.

[soonercruiser]

There should be no difference.
I can't compare...as all 3 of mine were Gen 2s, and one a manual.
The 2005 is now a turbo, and seems to drive like my 2006 GT did.
Any other difference might be mechanical...
-different/clean air filters
-plugs and wire
-old gas sitting in the 2008 on the lot
-any number of mechanical issues with the 2008

[gothamcop]

My first thought was the air cleaner. I will see if I can get it for a good price.
Thanks, guys, for the info and quick response.

[harrym]

Originally Posted by gothamcop

I have a 2002 base PT with a manual transmission and 185,000 miles. I find it to be pretty quick. I just test drove a 2008 manual with 58,000 miles and it seems somewhat slower. The dealer said the mileage and EPA requirements might cause them to lose power. Any comments??

If/when you get the '08, take some pictures of both and introduce yourself to us in the new members section. I infer from your moniker that you are in law enforcement. You'll find several folks in this forum that have law enforcement experience. It's a good forum, and you can get answers to many PT questions here.

[2step]

I seem to recall that the gearing was different in the early year(s). Maybe both the trans ratios and the final drive numbers. I don't recall the details but I'm sure a Google search could turn up some info.