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Old 14 Jul 2016, 12:03 am
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Anyone know what it can handle in horse power and torque? Looking to go bigger turbo, and want to operate within the getrags limits
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don't go above 300. so far, that's what i've heard. but you will have to test and document it.
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without some "performance" upgrades what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Default Re: getrag 288 performance??

I have often heard 300 hp as the upper limit for mostly stock cruisers. I thought that had more to do with the size/limits of the turbo than the tranny. What are all the big turbo guys running? I can't believe they are all using automatics.
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Old 14 Jul 2016, 12:54 pm
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I have often heard 300 hp as the upper limit for mostly stock cruisers. I thought that had more to do with the size/limits of the turbo than the tranny. What are all the big turbo guys running? I can't believe they are all using automatics.
The rule of thumb is about 30% on the engine for power increases and transmissions you find out their limits when they scatter.
There is a lot of interesting information when people talk about the strength of factory transmissions on the internet. Generally if you build more then 30% of stock engine power you are coming close to the limits of most factory stock transmission?

Modern Performance and FWD Performance are both great places to learn the truth about what the current Chrysler transmission "manual" transmissions can handle stock or vamped up. As for an automatic it depends on what shop you talk to but modding any A604/41TE costs money. A built 41TE ranges from 3-6k in better shops and if you do most all the work yourself $200-$3000+.
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The rule of thumb is about 30% on the engine for power increases and transmissions you find out their limits when they scatter.
There is a lot of interesting information when people talk about the strength of factory transmissions on the internet. Generally if you build more then 30% of stock engine power you are coming close to the limits of most factory stock transmission?

Modern Performance and FWD Performance are both great places to learn the truth about what the current Chrysler transmission "manual" transmissions can handle stock or vamped up. As for an automatic it depends on what shop you talk to but modding any A604/41TE costs money. A built 41TE ranges from 3-6k in better shops and if you do most all the work yourself $200-$3000+.
FWIW, I have heard more gripes about the clutch and Dual Mass Flywheel causing problems than the Getrag. Mine car is stock and driven like a little old lady going to church on Sundays and our DMF went south and the car wouldn't shift. Took a long time to figure out the problem.
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FWIW, I have heard more gripes about the clutch and Dual Mass Flywheel causing problems than the Getrag. Mine car is stock and driven like a little old lady going to church on Sundays and our DMF went south and the car wouldn't shift. Took a long time to figure out the problem.
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I am not sure who these people are that always seem to muddle up the internet with information that I can easily see is not accurate. Occasionally we get a vehicle in the shop that has a Dual mass flywheel or DMF. Unfortunately the training, education and experience I have had never detailed about the repairs and issues a DMF clutch set up might have. So generally after getting advise from those ASE who have, a tear down inspection is the only way to be sure.

FK5 I am sure you can relate to this next comment. My ear is old school for clutch problems sounds and the most exotic clutches I have expedience with is TWIN DISC CLUTCH set ups. When I first started to use them I thought the clutch was going to blow apart. In a street car they sound like a DUCATI. That said many times DMF with issues tend to make me go when I hear them ????

But like most everything on a car you are working on for a freind or customer you soon find out exactly how they have been driving their rides.
I think ya catch my meaning? So when it is reported about problem parts unless I get to see first hand the parts either physically or some good HD pictures I tend to think that the problems are over exaggerated and may have been caused from a slightly more aggressive driving style then the engineered parts intention.
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Old 14 Jul 2016, 05:31 pm
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Not to worry about insulting me Nitro. I know how our car was driven. Only two drivers that (knock wood) are super easy on clutches. The only failure we ever had other than 2.2 turbo clutch cables was with this car. (Knock wood again).

I wasn't really talking about my car, so much as what I have read from others that went for more power. Guys like Chris (here and on PT Crew). They seem to have trouble or worried about the DMF. The clutch even moreso. They are almost all going with aftermarket clutches.

I didn't do the flywheel job because I needed the car for work and I didn't have a garage at the time, but from what the mechanic told me it seemed more environmental than abuse related. He said that the "gel" or whatever the substance in between the pieces seemed dried out and was allowing excessive movement between the parts. My understanding is that the purpose is to soften the hit and make the car seem less harsh. When I read that I usually think it will be a problem as power levels go up.
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so it didn't look like the one i destroyed? LOL

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