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Old 30 Jul 2016, 08:23 pm
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Default Need pin diagram 03 pt gt MT

I recently swapped a getrag into my 03 gt and the starter won't engage.im assuming it is the clutch safety sensor or neutral safety switch(not sure of actual name) I don't have one hooking up..do I need to wire into the PCM and connect the sensor to clutch? How many wires is it and where exactly do they go into PCM.
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Old 31 Jul 2016, 12:13 am
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So what exactly did you do here ? Did you wind up exchanging the engine and inside wiring harness and computer >? Basically since you gave an almost useless 3 sentence post, there is zero information here that will lead me to even begin to throw a dart at your issue. i'm looking at diagram 8w-33-6 which describes the diagrams for the Clutch interlock switch signal and the TRS 41 Sense, both for MTX and EATX respectively. Give us a little better post, and we can go from there.
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Old 31 Jul 2016, 02:08 pm
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I appologize for my post I'm having trouble trying to explain my issue..I swapped my auto for manual in 03 pt gt. I changed pcm and engine harness.i didn't get the inside harness figured it would be fine with existing wire harness.
Now the problem I'm having is the car won't start. When I turn the key it doesn't crank at all. So I assumed this clutch interlock sensor is my problem and I want to bypass it or wire it in..Please let me know if you need any other info and I'll do my best to explain..thanks for your time!
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Old 01 Aug 2016, 03:33 pm
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You have the EATX harness on the inside of the car which means you're missing the wire harness for the CPP sw going to your PCM . What this means is, you're going to need to short PCM pin 21 [YEL/RED] from connector 3 to ground, this will send the signal that your CPP is always in start mode. However, your cruise control won't work now that the clutch signal is closed. A good idea is to wire pin 21 to the hot side of the clutch pedal switch, the other wire coming back into common somewhere on the harness in the same connector.
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You have the EATX harness on the inside of the car which means you're missing the wire harness for the CPP sw going to your PCM . What this means is, you're going to need to short PCM pin 21 [YEL/RED] from connector 3 to ground, this will send the signal that your CPP is always in start mode. However, your cruise control won't work now that the clutch signal is closed. A good idea is to wire pin 21 to the hot side of the clutch pedal switch, the other wire coming back into common somewhere on the harness in the same connector.
so out of the like, 7 wires that go to the stupid NSS you're saying only that matters? aahahaahah!! i believe you, just LOL. i looket at the wiring and said "F(orget) THAT!"

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Engaging the clutch in my '03 GT does not disconnect the cruise control. Step on the clutch and the cruise tries to hit the rev limiter. Been complaining about it since new.
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Engaging the clutch in my '03 GT does not disconnect the cruise control. Step on the clutch and the cruise tries to hit the rev limiter. Been complaining about it since new.
You must have an open in the circuit in between pin 21, C3, (YEL/RED) going to the Clutch Pedal Position switch or an open on the return path to ground. Can check with an ohm-meter. The reason the engine hits the rev is the is no signal from the clutch switch to disengage the vacuum solenoid.
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You must have an open in the circuit in between pin 21, C3, (YEL/RED) going to the Clutch Pedal Position switch or an open on the return path to ground. Can check with an ohm-meter. The reason the engine hits the rev is the is no signal from the clutch switch to disengage the vacuum solenoid.
Does yours disengages with the clutch?

The dealer told us it was "supposed to do that" when we complained about it. The car has done it since new. We never actually let it hit the rev limiter, but we always expect it to shut off and can rev quite a bit before we catch it. Plenty of other things to fix before I go after that one.

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Does yours disengages with the clutch?

The dealer told us it was "supposed to do that" when we complained about it. The car has done it since new. We never actually let it hit the rev limiter, but we always expect it to shut off and can rev quite a bit before we catch it. Plenty of other things to fix before I go after that one.

Sorry for the hijack.
The factory manual states a rapid increase in RPM indicates that the clutch has been disengaged. Why don't you let the engine do it's thing before trying to 'catch it'
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