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Old 17 Feb 2017, 12:40 pm
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What kind of a soldering iron are you using? Is it getting hot enough?
I was using the soldering gun the whole time.
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You should be able to find a crimp terminal, similar to the original, at an auto store or Radio Shack, the one you are trying to use is a big hunk of copper that will need a torch to get it hot enough to solder to.
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If you have a cheap propane torch, that's the best way to solder that large eyelet. You will never get enough heat there with a soldering iron. For sure.

If that is plumbing flux, it's acid based and will cause corrosion if not removed. Rosin flux is used in wiring for this reason.
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I would have used a smaller eyelet. That's waaaay oversized.

Sometimes i use a hammer to perfect a crimp. Couple good whacks after squeezing it by hand...it helps.
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Top row, far left ring terminal with the yellow insulation is what you need

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Top row, far left ring terminal with the yellow insulation is what you need

Alright I'll try getting a smaller terminal. I saw some at Princess Auto.

I can crimp it and it will be secure? It won't wiggle out over time?

Going to go get some more supplies.
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Old 17 Feb 2017, 03:22 pm
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If you have a cheap propane torch, that's the best way to solder that large eyelet. You will never get enough heat there with a soldering iron. For sure.

If that is plumbing flux, it's acid based and will cause corrosion if not removed. Rosin flux is used in wiring for this reason.
Oh, I used rosin. Acid flux would drive me to the hills if I did that. Was hard enough to even get the first wire soldered in. Took me 2+ hours to figure it out.

Lol. But I got it done. Just this last step with some more tools and it should be good to go.
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Old 18 Feb 2017, 09:41 am
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Alright, the update:

I was finally able to get the wires into the copper eyelet using a blowtorch. That took only 5 seconds:





The new connection worked well, at least from just looking at it, because I wasn't able to move the wires around in the eyelet once the solder cooled.

So I put it back into the body panel, put everything back together, and nothing.

I don't know if it's because 5 of the 7 wires had wire strands that didn't match 100% or because my soldering was bad or if I got a problem somewhere else.

Time to keep looking for other grounds.
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Old 18 Feb 2017, 11:59 am
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I would have used 2 or 3 eye/ring terminals as pictured before in a stack up rather than one welding cable lug to accomplish your goal. IMO that is not gonna hold for long. It will hold longer if it has a mechanical crimp along with the soldering you did, but to effectively do that in the car is a challenge without the tools designed for it.
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Old 18 Feb 2017, 02:35 pm
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I would have used 2 or 3 eye/ring terminals as pictured before in a stack up rather than one welding cable lug to accomplish your goal. IMO that is not gonna hold for long. It will hold longer if it has a mechanical crimp along with the soldering you did, but to effectively do that in the car is a challenge without the tools designed for it.
I think I might try to go back in there and do it again. I have those yellow eyelets except mine are red. It will be very difficult now if I have to strip more wire. The wire stripper barely made it down there for the first job.

I recently found 20G wire at another parts store which match the 6 strands I mentioned earlier. For my solder job I used 18G for (5 wires) when I should have now used 20G wire for the 5 wires. This does make a big difference right?

For the other 2 wires I used 16G because they matched perfectly.
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