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Old 14 Mar 2017, 12:22 am
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Default Car not starting; fuel pump?

Hey people,
I've searched this forum and Google but not positive on my problem. Any insight would be very helpful!

Okay, I have a 2001 PT. Everything was running fine and crisp on her. My girlfriend took my car out and that's when the mess started. Down my street, she said it was dying everytime she hit the brake, but it would restart.
20 mins later it started overheating so she pulled over and (kinda messed up) added some Antifreeze to the reservoir. Well the car wouldn't start.

I went and finally got it started to get home. I had to leave the key in the ignition, have it turn over for almost a minute straight and then it started. After getting it home, I noticed that there's a hole in the bottom of my radiator, which has now been JB Welded. The line going to my transmission cooler was leaking so iI replaced that hose.

Now, it turns over but won't start. Its trying but won't do it. Any ideas? I'm thinking maybe the fuel pump or sensor is bad. Any way to test it before I spend all my cash to put her in the shop?

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Old 14 Mar 2017, 08:04 am
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Default Re: Car not starting; fuel pump?

Welcome to the forum.

The 2001 model has a valve at the end of the fuel line. You can connect a gauge to that valve and check your fuel pressure. You should have between 53 and 63 psi.

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Old 14 Mar 2017, 02:43 pm
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Default Re: Car not starting; fuel pump?

I would get some starter fluid and spray it the throttle body.

If it does not start to run get a spark tester and see if you are getting spark.

How long did it overheat? If you have spark and. Fuel check your cylinder engine compression in all cylinders.
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 01:44 am
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Default Re: Car not starting; fuel pump?

Thanks for the advice, I'll try it all out!
And I'm assuming it overheated due to the hole in the bottom of the radiator; idk how it got there but guessing she ran up on a concrete parking placer or something.
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 10:01 am
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Default Re: Car not starting; fuel pump?

This could be a fuel pump and the advice you've already got is great.

One more thing to consider is that the car has overheated, the head gasket is blown and now one or more cylinders has low compression. In this scenario, you can often get the engine to start after turning it for some time.

Fuel pump symptoms I've experienced include one or more of these among others:

1. No fuel, engine does not start.
2. Engine starts but then bogs or tries to cut out when you press the accelerator. This may get worse as the engine warms up.
3. Engine starts but then dies after some time and will not restart. But then starts later.
4. Will not start until you hit the fuel tank with a hammer, then runs fine (Arkansas only. )
5. Engine will not start unless the key is left in the run position for some time before attempting to start it. Engine then shows some of the above symptoms.
6. Engine periodically does one or more of the above, but then runs fine other times.

Also, while fuel pump failure appears to be common in some Mopars including those with the 2.8L engine, it's not reported that much for PT Cruisers. There are some reports on this forum and others, but they are rare. Like the ignition coils, the OEM fuel pumps on these cars seem to be fairly good.
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 10:32 am
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Default Re: Car not starting; fuel pump?

mine failed at 248,000 miles.

not saying that i think a fuel pump has anything to do with the problem here
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Old 16 Mar 2017, 10:38 am
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mine failed at 248,000 miles.

not saying that i think a fuel pump has anything to do with the problem here
Well I take it all back then. If a fuel pump won't last at least a quarter million miles in a car designed only to last a 100,000 miles, then what are we coming to?
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Old 17 Mar 2017, 08:55 am
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4. Will not start until you hit the fuel tank with a hammer, then runs fine (Arkansas only. )

I prefer a 3 foot 2 x 4 but of course that's Indiana.
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