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Old 21 Jun 2017, 04:50 pm
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Default Cruiser fuel pump access

Hi all!
I've been getting a ton of help here in dealing with my personal Cruiser Crisis for which I am extremely grateful! All of the latest test and advice has been pointing to the fuel pump so I've decided to try that next.
I'm not sure what the overall opinion of this is but I decided to install an access hatch so I can get to the pump without having to drop the tank and I think it turned out really well. While I haven't pulled the pump yet (too hot out there) I think being able to get to it this way is going to be handy.
Anyway, I just thought I'd throw this out there and see if there is any interest. If so, just let me know and I'll post some photos and the layout measurements that I used after hunting around online.
For the record, I probably wouldn't have gone this route if I were certain that I just needed to change the fuel pump. However I have a feeling that I will likely have to get back in there a time or two before this is said and done so it works for me.
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Old 21 Jun 2017, 05:07 pm
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It is a good idea if and when you need access to the fuel pump but I must say that very few, if any, owners have come to the forum with fuel pump problems. Apparently it's one of the few things that they used on the cruiser that seem to last a long, long time. But nothings perfect and your idea could come in handy for that one time it happens to fail.

Probably before your time, there was a recall where the fuel tank leaked at the access to the fuel pump if the cruiser turned upside down in a crash.



I was there personally when I took mine in to have the gasket replaced on the fuel pump. The tank had to be taken down and it took the mechanic only about 1/2 hour to drop the tank, replace the gasket and put it all back together again. He had done so many of them, he could probably had done it in his sleep.
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Old 21 Jun 2017, 06:01 pm
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im interested! post pictures!

you might find when you are finished that the most annoying part of changing the pump is removing the damn 6" nut.. which may be even more fun for you curled in a ball working in the trunk. this car is very easy to drop the tank. you don't even need tools to disconnect the lines. but if you cut that hole...

im interested! post pictures!

i carved my way through the dash with an angle grinder , sawzall, and a chisel. here
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Old 23 Jun 2017, 07:18 pm
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im interested! post pictures!

you might find when you are finished that the most annoying part of changing the pump is removing the damn 6" nut.. which may be even more fun for you curled in a ball working in the trunk. this car is very easy to drop the tank. you don't even need tools to disconnect the lines. but if you cut that hole...

im interested! post pictures!
Believe it or not, there is plenty of room to work. I just finished swapping out the fuel pump and working through the new hole is a breeze! And as I was replacing the pump anyway, I hot wired the fuel pump and used it to drain the 10 gallons of old gas that was in it. While I wasn't able to really wash out the tank, I had plenty of room to wipe down the inside. I promise I'll get the pics and measurements posted in the next day or two.
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Old 23 Jun 2017, 10:27 pm
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you might find when you are finished that the most annoying part of changing the pump is removing the damn 6" nut.. which may be even more fun for you curled in a ball working in the trunk.
I'm about to do a dodge durango fuel pump, and I bought the proper OTC tool special for the job. There's a proper tool for the job !
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Old 25 Jun 2017, 07:16 am
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Great idea. Ford had a recall on the Tempo and this is how the dealership accessed the pump. I was pissed working tediously to not break rusty studs after getting the tank down and seeing the patch. My friend said, oh yeah. That car had a recall on the fuel pump. I forgot to tell you they went in through the top. Was under the rear seat area. For the life of me I do not know why the manufacturers do not provide an access panel for this. Cant wait to see your photos. I am thinking of changing mine in the near future.
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Old 30 Jun 2017, 08:32 pm
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I watched a video on you tube today. he said 9 inches back from the middle pivots for the back seat. Then a 9 x 9 hole. There is some sort of hole in the floorboard. Split the difference to each side of the center of that hole. Looks like a very shallow cut. Maybe with a nibbler or a grinder with a cut off wheel. Just enough to pierce the metal. He pulled the carpet out but said you could easily cut a flap since its under the back seats anyway. Just thought I would add my 2 cents.
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Old 30 Jun 2017, 09:39 pm
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I watched a video on you tube today. he said 9 inches back from the middle pivots for the back seat. Then a 9 x 9 hole. There is some sort of hole in the floorboard. Split the difference to each side of the center of that hole. Looks like a very shallow cut. Maybe with a nibbler or a grinder with a cut off wheel. Just enough to pierce the metal. He pulled the carpet out but said you could easily cut a flap since its under the back seats anyway. Just thought I would add my 2 cents.
thats where I got my info and it worked fine. I just used my dremel to cut it. I was trying to post some pics of thr project but photobucket is playing silly buggers and now wants to charge for 3rd party photo posting. I'll get those uo as soon as I find a replacement site.
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Old 01 Jul 2017, 06:31 am
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thats where I got my info and it worked fine. I just used my dremel to cut it. I was trying to post some pics of thr project but photobucket is playing silly buggers and now wants to charge for 3rd party photo posting. I'll get those uo as soon as I find a replacement site.
Forget photobucket. Go to imgur.com.
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Old 11 Jul 2017, 12:22 pm
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okay, sorry it took me so long to get to these photos. Before I go any further, there is one thing I can't stress enough! If you do this project, please over compensate when it comes to avoiding an exhaust leak into the cab.
Overall, it's a pretty easy project!

Here's my carpet cut.


very easy to center 9" by 10" cut


plenty of room to get to the pump and with some twisting around, you can wipe down the entire inside surface of the tank.


my cover solution with PLENTY of weather stripping for the seal
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