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Old 04 Jun 2018, 03:13 pm
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Default NA long block Vs Turbo long block.

I have purchased a 2005 GT convertible with a supposed bad motor. The kid tapped the front end and busted the radiator and drove it till it quit. I do not have the car here yet so I dont know the extent of the damage. I got it cheap enough to fix it. It may just be a blow head gasket, I dont know yet. My question is are there any differences between the na and turbo long blocks ?? Im not after performance by any stretch this will be my wifes car once I get it back going.
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Old 04 Jun 2018, 04:08 pm
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I have purchased a 2005 GT convertible with a supposed bad motor. The kid tapped the front end and busted the radiator and drove it till it quit. I do not have the car here yet so I dont know the extent of the damage. I got it cheap enough to fix it. It may just be a blow head gasket, I dont know yet. My question is are there any differences between the na and turbo long blocks ?? Im not after performance by any stretch this will be my wifes car once I get it back going.
You can only use 03 and up. On either one. But you cant use either or. Different compression, plumbing for oil lines lines for turbo, oiling for piston skirts, and oil cooler on the turbos. You can convert a N/A block to a turbo with a few changes. Then use the guts from a turbo to build a short block. All cams are the same. But I'm not sure if the valves are the same. But it's gets down to you basic question. You can't exchange one for the other.
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I have purchased a 2005 GT convertible with a supposed bad motor. The kid tapped the front end and busted the radiator and drove it till it quit. I do not have the car here yet so I dont know the extent of the damage. I got it cheap enough to fix it. It may just be a blow head gasket, I dont know yet. My question is are there any differences between the na and turbo long blocks ?? Im not after performance by any stretch this will be my wifes car once I get it back going.
No. You will need a GT car with which to take parts. The entire powertrain is different from the non-GT, even the computer and wiring.

Anyway, since you know what you're doing, take the engine apart and see what the damage is, see if it can be salvaged or repaired first. Best to remove the front bumper assembly, both front wheels, headlights, hood, radiator and you will have some room to work.

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Old 13 Jun 2018, 03:53 pm
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You can only use 03 and up. On either one. But you cant use either or. Different compression, plumbing for oil lines lines for turbo, oiling for piston skirts, and oil cooler on the turbos. You can convert a N/A block to a turbo with a few changes. Then use the guts from a turbo to build a short block. All cams are the same. But I'm not sure if the valves are the same. But it's gets down to you basic question. You can't exchange one for the other.
I just purchased a complete 03 GT hard top with a broke timing belt. Just to be clear, you are saying a 03 engine will interchange with my 05 ? Ive always thought it was 04 up ??? Thanks guys
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Old 13 Jun 2018, 11:19 pm
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Too many differences. Only use a GT block and cylinder head if you are building a GT motor. I could name the differences but it's not worth it. It's possible to make the necessary modifications but you'd be out more money than if you just started with a GT engine to begin with.
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Default Re: NA long block Vs Turbo long block.

When folks in this thread are saying "GT" they really mean "turbo". All PT turbo engines have the same block, head and internals. So an engine from a turbo lite PT would work just the same as a GT engine because there's no difference in the long block. Overall the only differences in any of the PT turbo engines (GT and turbo lite) are minor year to year changes in the intake manifold, PCV valve and other minor things.

Factoring this in, turbo PT's are fairly common. So finding a salvage turbo PT engine is not difficult at all. When I've looked for parts in the past, I found them in salvage yards quite regularly.
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