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Old 30 Oct 2004, 05:11 pm
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Hi:

I have two questions about the spark plugs needed for a 2001 PT Cruiser Touring Edition:

The guys at a local Texaco Quick Lube told me they couldn't change the plugs since they needed to lift something covering the spark plugs (the intake manifold???), which in turn would ruin someting they called in Spanish the "junta de multiple admision" (I *think* "multiple admision" = manifold... but I'm not sure... no idea how to translate "junta"). They said I need to purchase one so they can replace the old one after installing the new plugs.

Now, I cannot find that part locally (my Mopar dealer said it would have to to be ordered), but neither I can really order it online myself since I don't know how's that part called in English (the guys at Quick Lube didn't know, and I couldn't ask at the Mopar dealer since apparently they close Saturdays at noon *sigh*)...

Any idea what that part is called?

Ack... I feel so ignorant

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Old 30 Oct 2004, 05:22 pm
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Wait... I *think* what they are referring to is the manifold gasket (gasket = "junta" according to http://world.altavista.com/tr).

Still, someone else has told me already that's bogus... but if that's so, how can i trust the Quick Lube guys to do it right then? Should I go to a local Mopar service center and pay more, or can I really do it myself when I have basically no experience servicing cars...
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That cant be the whole thing because plugs routinley have to be changed. Chrysler wouldnt have screwed everyone like that. Well...I hope not.
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Old 30 Oct 2004, 10:47 pm
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GASKET Intake Manifold Upper to Lower Part Nr: 4777 868AB

Edwin,

There's a couple hundred of us that have changed, wires and plugs and a few changed their coil..nobody's had to buy a new manifold gasket to perform that task. The gasket can be used over after separating the two halves of the manifold. Personally I'd stay away from your "quick lube" guys and find somebody that knows what their doing.
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Personally I'd stay away from your "quick lube" guys and find somebody that knows what their doing.
Sounds like sound advice to me.
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Old 31 Oct 2004, 12:45 am
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check this link out:
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Old 31 Oct 2004, 05:01 pm
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Thank you all for the advice ... I'll definitely stay at arm's length from the Quick Lube guys from now on...

To Junkno: Extremely useful photo album, and funny as well ... That is exactly what I needed (er... do you have one on changing the oil and the ol filter? ).

I have a question about screwing in the plugs and the torque spec, though. I thought I could do that by hand and then twist the plug around a bit with a ratchet to tighten it a bit. However, you underscore the importance of being precise about the amount of torque used, and therefore one would need a torque wrench for that.

However, the torque wrenches I've seen online (I did a search since I was unfamiliar with the tool) are rather on the expensive side of the spectrum. Paying someone else to do the job would be less expensive

Can I do that with an ordinary ratchet and an appropriately sized socket? Or is that too risky?

Edwin
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You need to torque down the plugs. Too loose or too tight of a plug will not make proper contact.
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I found a micrometer torque wrench (in/lbs) at the local flea market for around $20.00. Sears wanted 45.00 for about the same wrench.
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Torquing down the five small bolts that put the two halves of the manifold together is pretty important also. They can strip really easy with too much torque...take my word on that!
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