cold air intake?

[ptgtcb]

Can't you read? Did I say hot air is good, NO. The so called cold air your introducing is gone by the time it hits the turbo so get real. Don't even get into racing here because this is not F1, go read some more of your hot rod magazines. You guys are hopeless. [:0]

[Jeff V]

Maybe if we built a bunch of little itty bitty mini air conditioners, and place them all along the intake and the uppercharge pipe, the colder air would stay colder!

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[Mean Green]

quote:Originally posted by Jeff V

Maybe if we built a bunch of little itty bitty mini air conditioners, and place them all along the intake and the uppercharge pipe, the colder air would stay colder!

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[03baggedturbo]

Hello guys.. I dont know of anyone that has tested more intakes than me.. I have tested , stock with K&N drop in, mine (prototypepower), air raid, BTG..ect..ect.. ect..

They all aprox 4HP difference.. The duct that comes from by the fog light is realy nice.. a lot of different intakes try to utilize that.. The BTG has little to big holes and a metal heat shield box thing, air raid that sits on the top of the stock air box.. so that one would utilize the stock snorkle..

On mine I have a cone shaped open air filter with a small cone on the end.. the filter sits right on top of the plastic duct from the fog light..

Like I said all intakes are aprox the same.. with this in mind I would get something within your price range, something that looks cool, something thatuses all 4 ply silicone hoses, stainless steel clamps, manderal bends, bead rolled edges, and something that you can grow with..

I carry the intakes for $130 in candy blue, candy red, candy silver, purple, yellow, limited edition orange, black with purple ghost, and chrome (little extra for chrome)..

The cool thing about my intake is you can get my new version of the uppercharge pipe.. instead of three 90 degree bends and a 45 degree bend at the top like the stock one. I come off the intercooler with a 45 degree bend and make two other bends close to 45 degree's.. by flatining the bends out so drasticly the turbo can work more efficiently by not having the back presure of the tight bends..

For the price of some intakes you can get my hole system $330 for powdercoated black..



Thanks.. Adam
www.prototypepower.com

[emr131]

random thought. I notice some people mentioning that the tubes going through the engine compartment would still heat up the air, would direct ventilation out of the hood be preferrable? Has anyone done that yet?

[03baggedturbo]

This guy came to the track with us one or two times.. he had this hood that had a small scoop in the front middle.. inside the hood it had a tube or something in it that came around and dropped right over the stock air box. he was running as fast as some guys with stage one.. well he also had the mopar coilovers.. so not sure if it was that or the suspension.. the hood was expensive ..

you can get universal hood scoops.. then you just cut a hole and put them on.. paint..ect.. you could put a mesh grill to keep out big things.. but your engine bay gets a lot more durty with those since dirt and stuff gets in more easily..

Thanks.. Adam
www.prototypepower.com

[Truth]

quote:Originally posted by ptgtcb

Can't you read? Did I say hot air is good, NO. The so called cold air your introducing is gone by the time it hits the turbo so get real. Don't even get into racing here because this is not F1, go read some more of your hot rod magazines. You guys are hopeless. [:0]

What??????
So does cold air help or not..... You posted both, hot air is not good, but cold air won't help. So by your reasoning cold air is bad.
A=B, B=C, so A=C
A=Hot air
B=Cold air after "it hits the turbo"
C=air after turbo

*I must infer that his comparison includes the hot air will "hit the turbo" as well as the cold air from his claim*

aka: a life jacket will not float but if your boat sinks you better have one ....

A colder intake charge will always make more hp, no matter what(all other things being equal of course, aka cfm or barometric pressure, etc), ever...ever ever ever, under any condition. Break it down to simple physics, colder air is more dense, it does not matter what you do to the air after it is pulled into the motor, compress it intercool it run a pipe through your seat into your uhhhh....it will still provide more o2 molecules per unit of air. Therefore making more hp, even if the gains are small.

Once again check your Newtonian physics, matter or energy cannot be created or destroyed (unless nuclear reaction takes place which as fast is it is the PT does not employ nuclear fusion for a power source if you were unaware) only converted, less heat energy in---------guess what less heat energy out. aka more efficient combustion (or as we more stupiderer people calls it; more of them there horsey powers)

By the way...."Don't even get into racing here".....Why miss Hilton? because it could get "Hott"...I miss read the forum I thought I was posting in the "Turbo Performance" section....which is aka the "not racing forum" I guess.....sorry

[Cal Cruzer]

quote:Originally posted by ptgtcb

Can't you read? Did I say hot air is good, NO. The so called cold air your introducing is gone by the time it hits the turbo so get real. Don't even get into racing here because this is not F1, go read some more of your hot rod magazines. You guys are hopeless. [:0]

Talk about hopeless, as I said, the rest of the world is out of step, not you. Why would the charge be the same by the time it goes through about 12 inched of pipe? And why not get into racing. That is where most of the street performance inovation comes from. Win on sunday, sell it on monday. Sound familiar? Maybe it makes no difference in the vacuum you live in but the rest of the racing world would disagree with you.

[JoePro]

Man, here it is again. Guys spending good money to solve a problem that ISN'T there!

There is NO induction inefficiency in this engine! You want to impact air mass/density? Cool the intercooler. It will have 10X the effect that a cheesy K&N filter (which, incidentally, you will NEVER see at a race track) or so-called "cold-air" induction.

[Cal Cruzer]

quote:Originally posted by JoePro

, you will NEVER see at a race track) or so-called "cold-air" induction.

Jeez, what are all those air scoops, direct induction turbos etc?