cold air intake?

[Truth]

quote:Originally posted by JoePro

... It will have 10X the effect that a cheesy K&N filter (which, incidentally, you will NEVER see at a race track) or so-called "cold-air" induction.

I've seen K&N's on almost every single one of the race cars that run at our local track. I've seen them on everything from NHRA 7 sec mustangs to 15 sec bracket cars to 800 hp supras.

Not to mention have you seen the mustang guys that mount the turbo in the bumper... Why would they do that??? Why run all that extra pipe to put the inlet of the turbo in the front bumper of the car for a "ram air" effect??

But I guess you know better than a guy who puts a 1000 hp small block togather. In fact next time I see them running 8's out at the track I tell them how dumb they are to try and run cold air into the turbo.

[ptgtcb]

Tell you what TRUTH,
Why don't you back up all your diarrea and measure the air temp @ the manifold, you know the air that enters the engine, with and without the so-called cold air intakes.
Again, I never said a colder air charge would not help produce more power only that the engine won't ever see your so-called cold dense air charge.
How cold is cold? You make it sound as if these cold air intakes are drawing in 0 degree air from some magical place.
Outside air is outside air and the stock air box with a tube running from the brake duct area isn't going to be significant enough (compared to the stock box) to actually reach the cylinder after traveling through the hot turbo, down through the hot inlet pipe to the IC , through the IC where it actually cools the air charge, up through the hot IC outlet pipe, through the hot t-body and finally through the hot intake to the cylinders.
Come on, pull your head out of your ass.

[Cal Cruzer]

quote:Originally posted by ptgtcb


Come on, pull your head out of your ass.

When your arguement is futile, resort to insults. Great post.

[Cal Cruzer]

quote:Originally posted by ptgtcb


How cold is cold? You make it sound as if these cold air intakes are drawing in 0 degree air from some magical place.
Outside air is outside air and the stock air box with a tube running from the brake duct area isn't going to be significant enough (compared to the stock box) to actually reach the cylinder after traveling through the hot turbo, down through the hot inlet pipe to the IC , through the IC where it actually cools the air charge, up through the hot IC outlet pipe, through the hot t-body and finally through the hot intake to the cylinders.

No matter what, the cooler the air going into the IC is, the cooler it will be coming of out the other side. This is just such a no brainer. Everyone in the racing world can’t be wrong.

[Truth]

quote:Originally posted by Cal Cruzer

No matter what, the cooler the air going into the IC is, the cooler it will be coming of out the other side. This is just such a no brainer. Everyone in the racing world can’t be wrong.

Exactly what I was trying to say in a much nicer easier to read form.

[Fodder4U]

Have yall seen the new one offered by Mopar now for the PT Turbos?
http://www.mopar.com/street/whatshot.htm
I had to call a dealer for the price and they wanted $339.00 but he was willing to get me one for $300.00. IMO that is a bit steep for one that the only difference between it and most others out there utilizing a heat shield is that Mopar's has the big M on it.

[Mihoshi]

This is probably me. (Electric Blue PT, CA "MIHOSHI" license plates?)

The hood is the dual scoop Keystone hood that I got from PT Tuning.
http://www.pt-tuning.com/exteriorPar...DualScoop.html
The scoops are ducted to an Airaid style box that mates up and seals
around the ducting hole so you get a fairly closed system from the
hood to the intake filter. (Basically the stock airbox is used, but
with a cone K&N style filter, with the airbox lid replaced by the
Airaid system.) Since the new hood is fiberglass, I also probably
managed to loose a few pounds as well.

The coilovers are the BTG ones, again from PT Tuning. They're
basically re-branded H&Rs.
http://www.pt-tuning.com/performance..._GT-Sport.html
If I recall the numbers correctly, I dropped it 2" in the rear and
1-1/2" up front to remove the rake. I also put in the BTG front strut
tower brace and Eibach swaybars front and back.

Setup for my best runs were as follows:
Setup: rear seats, tire, and jack out. About 1/3 tank of the usual
crappy CA 91 octane. Goodyear rubber on the stock 17" chrome rims,
and auto transmission.

Mods: H&R coilovers, Eibach sway bars, functional Goodhood dual scoop
hood feeding an Airraid airbox, and BTG front strut bar, and Mopar BOV. *No* Stage 1, exhaust, or any kind of engine mod other than the
Mopar BOV.

Best run as follows: ( at CA Speedway, 9/18/04 )

R/T: .137
60': 2.265
330: 0.000
1/8: 9.753@12.732 MPH
1000: 12.732
1/4: 15.243@89.27 MPH

Paul

quote:Originally posted by 03baggedturbo

This guy came to the track with us one or two times.. he had this hood that had a small scoop in the front middle.. inside the hood it had a tube or something in it that came around and dropped right over the stock air box. he was running as fast as some guys with stage one.. well he also had the mopar coilovers.. so not sure if it was that or the suspension.. the hood was expensive ..

you can get universal hood scoops.. then you just cut a hole and put them on.. paint..ect.. you could put a mesh grill to keep out big things.. but your engine bay gets a lot more durty with those since dirt and stuff gets in more easily..

Thanks.. Adam
www.prototypepower.com

[ptgtcb]

quote:Originally posted by Cal Cruzer

When your arguement is futile, resort to insults. Great post.

Thanks, I thought it was great too.

I see no one can back up their "assumptions" with fact. Show me the proof Mr. Cal Cruzer, I believe your argument is the futile one.

[Cal Cruzer]

quote:Originally posted by ptgtcb

Thanks, I thought it was great too.

I see no one can back up their "assumptions" with fact. Show me the proof Mr. Cal Cruzer, I believe your argument is the futile one.

Actually I can back it up any time you would like to come over and see the results on the temp gauge that I have mounted in my airbox. You seem to be the one making the assumptions.

...and insults will not convince anyone of anything, they only reflect badly on you.

[fxist]

Hey guys..

I bought my cruiser around 1 week ago however now it has 1340 miles on it I'm planning to buy a cold air-intake in these days.. I used to use KN Filters for bmw 330 however it sucked... KN or any of oyhers they do not give 5 or so HP.. i guess everybody knows that.
soo an air intake needs just for Cold Air and Lil more engine sound..
I need advises about it.. thanks.