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Old 14 Jul 2008, 04:24 pm
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Default Mud Tires...?!

Has anyone heard of someone putting mud tires on their PT? The time is near where I am gonna need new tires. I currently have ZR-17's and the car is lowered 2"; however I have the original struts and springs. I was thinking I could raise the car back up and put some muds on it...maybe some 30-32" tires. Is this possible? Also, what about a 4" lift kit; is it possible without a rear differential on the vehicle?
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Old 15 Jul 2008, 04:01 pm
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Default Re: Mud Tires...?!

Well stock tire size is pretty much 25". Going to a 30-32" tire means that you are going to have a tire that is 2.5-3.5" taller and wider in the wheel well. I'm pretty sure there's no room in the wheel well for a tire 3.5" bigger on each side of the wheel well. That means that you have to lift as you suggested.

I've been looking into getting a Suzuki Sidekick as a beater vehicle. It is IFS (independent front suspension) like the PT. Most lifts for it locate the front diff lower than stock. Why? Because lifting the vehicle causes the cv joints on the axles to run at angles greater than they were designed for. I would think you likely couldn't lift more than 2" without running into issues with cv bind. At that point you are looking at either running lowering the engine/tranny to accommodate, or you're looking at having customized axles built which isn't cheap. You still may run into the issue that with the full amount of travel you run into rubbing on either the top or sides of the fender. Also expect problems when turning the wheel full lock with rubbing on the insides of the fender lining.

I would think to do it right fitting a 32" tire with a 4" lift, you'll be looking at spending a small fortune and you'll still have a vehicle that has the off road ability of a crotch rocket.

What I would suggest if you are very seriously wanting to go for this look AND want a functional rig is this: Start looking at listings for wrecked Jeep Wranglers with the 3.8L engine. The old Jeeps use an inline 6 which is far too long for the PT engine bay, the 3.8 is more compact. Buy a wrecked Jeep, chop the frame to fit the PT. Drop the PT onto the Jeep frame. You end up with a true 4x4, anything aftermarket for the drivetrain/suspension you want, and a unique looking rig. It just wouldn't be cheap.



This is the only 4x4 I've ever come across. Unfortunately they had to extend the front end, the wheelbase is wrong, the engine bay just looks weird the way they've blocked it off. If they'd worked with smaller components it would have looked better, but hey, I'd still drive that!

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Old 27 Jul 2008, 01:45 pm
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Default Re: Mud Tires...?!

Ya it was not so meant to be for off roading. It was more just to be different. Thanks for the information though; I appreciate it!
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