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Old 18 Apr 2013, 02:33 pm
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Hi Guys,

Really hoping that you can help me with a front wheel brake saga on my second PT Cruiser…

After purchasing her a month ago, I had to drive home (about 400 miles) and when I came up to a stop, I would get a mild grinding noise coming from the near side front wheel. I took it to a garage and they cleaned all the brakes down and after picking her up after 10 minutes of driving, when I came to a stop I got a new, louder, clonking noise that sounded like the wheel was going to come off! I took her straight back to the garage the next morning and after looking again, they said that the wheel bearing need to be replaced. Fine – they carried out the work and after forking out more money, the same happened again. The noise was only happening when the car warmed up and took her straight back.

Long story short, they said that it was a faulty wheel bearing and that they had to replace the CV joint. Guess what, same noise after picking her up! Felt that I needed a second opinion at this stage and took her to kwik fit (brake and wheel specialist in the UK) and they said that the retainer clip hadn’t been put back on correctly and they cleaned off the brakes and everything else appeared all fine.

The loud clonking noise had gone, but about 10 mins after driving when I came to a stop I heard (what only can be described as) a 'chirping/whistle' repeating as I came to stop. I doesn't sound half as bad as the previous clonking, though the chirping is happening at low speeds as the wheel turns. After driving around town (for the longest since I got back), the chirping noise is still there, but now as I come to stop the clunking noise is coming back.

Note: If this helps put the picture together more (for anyone out there), the only other thing with her is that starting from warm sometimes there aren't enough revs to kick the engine in and I have to pop the pedal a little to start her.

Really want to get this sorted, as really want to enjoy her, so any advice will be well received!
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Old 18 Apr 2013, 04:08 pm
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First, Make sure they are putting the "anti-rattle" clips on correctly. Second, If the battery has been checked and you have the correct voltage, take off the cables and clean any corrosion that might have been built up around the battery terminals. This corrosion will stop the voltage from getting to where it has to go and might be your problem when starting.



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Old 19 Apr 2013, 05:48 am
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Thanks for the quick reply CREWZIN, really appreciate it. At Kwik Fit, I saw them take off both front wheels and after sanding down the brake pads and ‘polishing’ the discs, I saw them put it all back together and although I am not anywhere near a mechanic, it appeared that they put things all back on fine. They mentioned two other things that it could be a) that the caliper on the other front wheel was tight and possibly stopping the piston from retracting fully (though I don’t hear the sound coming from this side) and b) that the disc on the near side front wheel may be warped (if that’s the right word).

Called my old garage this morning and they have booked me ion for Wednesday next week and they mentioned the wheel bearings, but not feeling confident as this has already been replaced! You haven’t come across any mentions of any good PT cruiser mechanics in London by any chance?

Appreciate your help on this Crewzin and will mention this to the garage on Wednesday. If you have any other thoughts, they would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 19 Apr 2013, 07:00 am
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I do know a great mechanic but unfortunately he's up in Yorkshire; Harrogate to be exact, where I spent my 12 years in England.

As far as the noise, I just spent some time on Google search and there's a lot of folks with the same problem with a lot of different answers. A few found that the caliper mounting bracket was loose and some others said it was a Bad, right upper ball joint and loose left lower control arm. So, there's a coupe others things to have checked out.
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Old 19 Apr 2013, 07:44 am
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Thanks again Crewzin, shame that your guy wasn't a little closer to London!

Will give the garage the info that you have kindly provided and hope for the best and will let you know how it goes.
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Old 20 Apr 2013, 04:54 am
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rhion; Ive had a similar problem with other cars. Two cars had hanging calipers and another had a collapsed brake hose. For a quick test, when you hear the noise stop slowly. Then get out and feel the wheels near the center. If one side is hotter than the other side, the hot side is dragging. Cracking the bleeder will tell you more.
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Old 20 Apr 2013, 10:43 am
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Hi pt06,

Funny that you mention that, as when I was at kwik fit they said that the brake on the other side was very warm and when he tried to take off the calliper he had to get someone else to help him.

After cleaning it all off and refitting that the calliper he said it was tight and it could be that the piston didn't have space to move back. I couldn't understand this though, as the noise sounds like it is definitely coming from the left. I can hear it when I pass parked cars on that side.

Won't rule it out though as it falls into the story so far! What do you mean by cracking and bleeding? I obviously don't know as much as want to at this stage, but this site is helping me tremendously!

Taking these suggestions with me on Wednesday when I take her to my old garage.

Cheers,

Rhion
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Old 04 Jul 2013, 01:52 pm
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Hi Guys,

Sorry for not providing any updates, a lot going on here.

Well I went to the garage and they came back saying that the brake callipers were too tight and ordered new ones. I then got a call to say that they needed to order in the calliper carrier from America and it could take anything up to two weeks to arrive. He said that she wasn't safe to drive and as a result, she was away for 3 weeks!

After picking her up, the noise had gone and there was a light version of it every so often, but I could deal with that. However after a few weeks driving her the noise is coming back. On a 300 mile drive she goes great, it's just the brakes. Here is what I am left with now...

Repeating clonking noise when braking slowly and nearly coming to a stop
When I brake suddenly to a stop, the noise doesn't happen but I feel the brake pedal vibrate under my foot
There is a rattling under the car when going over rough roads
Every so often, I hear this chirping noise in the wheel whilst driving at low speed.

So, today I took her back to the guy to look at under the guarantee (thank God as I have already forked out £600 and still no joy!) and he calls me to say that it is 'uncanny' and can't figure it out, but that he will call me tomorrow after having a look at a few other things.

I really appreciate your guys help so far on this one and if you can suggest anything else on this one I would greatly appreciate it!

Rhion

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Old 19 Jul 2013, 04:42 am
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rhion; one thing at a time. The pedal vibration is due to the rotors. Have them turned or replaced. Put new pads on at the same time as the old pads are likely worn unevenly. It is important to have full contact between the pads and rotors. After installation, break the pads in slowly. 5 mild stops from 30 MPH, then a 15 minute cool down, then 5 medium stops, cool down, then one hard stop.

good luck, sorry about the late post.
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Old 19 Jul 2013, 10:01 am
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I must have missed the post where he said what year,model,engine,or even miles the PT Cruiser is/has?
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