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Old 19 Sep 2014, 02:39 pm
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Default "Creaky" front wheel problem... HELP!

Since changing my rotors and replacing front pads on my Pt, I have developed quite a loud "creak/squeak" on the front drivers side wheel. It is definitely a rotational squeak as it speeds up and slows down with the car speed so cannot be bushings (replaced 2 months ago) Initially I thought it was a torn gator on the drive shaft but no... Then I checked to see if it was a squeaky tyre but after marking the wheels, refitting turned 180 degrees, the squeak happened in the same part of the rotation, not tyre related. There is no squeak when jacked up (no load) but it is there even at low speeds, rolling with the engine off. I replaced the wheel bearings six months ago and really don't think it can be that as it is a definite rubbery squeak rather than a metal on metal squeak.

Anyone got any ideas as to what it could be? Anyone else had this problem?
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Old 19 Sep 2014, 07:59 pm
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Did you try taking the wheel off and see if it still makes the noise with every revolution?
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 02:41 am
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Tried it with the wheel off and no noise. Even with it jacked up and wheel on there's no noise... Only with weight of car on it does it make the noise and always at the same point in the rotation. Gonna put my winter wheels on today to rule out possibility of it being the wheel/tyre. Any other ideas guys?
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 10:45 am
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Do you have tools to check your new rotor and see if might be warped in one area?
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 02:44 pm
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There are a couple of things it could be. You may have a bad belt in the tire that causes a "squirm" in the tread to sound off. Rotating front to back can be a way to tell with tires (tyres).

If the noise began immediately after the brake change, I would focus on the pads and calipers first and the rotors second. If the noise is absent when slowing the car with the brakes applied, that a fairly sure sign that the brakes are the cause of the noise. Check to see if the calipers are floating freely on the pins and/or lube the pins if needed. If you have been extra gentle with the brakes, it can't hurt to make a few more aggressive stops from 100kph to burn the pads in and "seat" everything. Secondly, check the rotors to be sure nothing is warped, even if they are new.

Not so likely but a possibility would be the axles/CV joints.
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Old 20 Sep 2014, 02:57 pm
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Are you tightening the lug nuts with a torque wrench each time you put the tire back on?
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 02:06 am
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Don't you just love it when you spend hours trying everything and turns out to be something really simple!
Changed to my winter wheels to check if it was the tyre... Creak/squeak still there....
Stripped the brakes, regreased the calliper slider pins, used brake cleaner on all the relevant parts, copper slipped the pad guides and and rattle clips and reassembled... Creak still there...
Stripped the whole hub assembly off and checked ball joint and track rod ends... No play at all... Creak still there...
On final reassembly, noticed that the boot on the cv joint looked slightly out of line, pita to get to... Pulled the larger end off the white lug and cut off the band/clamp. Repositioned and used large jubilee clip to reclamp it! Squeak gone!!!!

Cheers 2step!
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 09:22 am
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Good deal! I'm glad you solved it. I must give respect for your mechanical skills. I'm sure there are many "professionals" who would still be shrugging their shoulders.
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Old 21 Sep 2014, 09:54 am
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Don't think its a matter of my mechanical prowess, more a testament to this forum... The sort and knowledge base here amongst members, is amazing!!! Thanks guys!
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Old 23 Sep 2014, 09:07 am
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The boot must'v been molested when brakes were done?
Good perseverance in solving the problem.
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