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Old 13 Aug 2011, 08:45 pm
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Well According to my fuelly I get around 21-23 mpg on a pretty regular basis and my driving is mixed, also with alot of short trips here and there.
its not terrible fuel milage but I do wish for better.

I also have the 5speed manuel......I've heard the auto is a dog compared to the manuel.

seriously recommend www.fuelly.com
you can also compare your gas mileage to other people with your vehicles or other vehicles in general.
plus they allow you to put the spiffy little badge in your signature so you can show it off to everyone on the forum LOL.

I love the pt. its got room for seating and room for luggage. its a five speed and it has a relatively torquey engine and gets moving when needed.

The things I don't like about it is the fact that one there aren't very many smog/carb legal performance products out there as I would want.

and th biggest thing is that to me chrysler/dodge totally screwed the pooch on the technology this car deservered.
they took a 2.4 liter motor which is nice but instead of giving it technology from the 21st centery they gave it technology from teh 20th century.
this motor could be soo much better if it had modern technology like variable valve timing (which has been around for over 20 years), and variable cam timing (which has been around for roughly 10+ years).

Look at a vehicle like the honda CRV.....a crossover suv vehicle....powered by a 2.4 liter 4cyl engine with variable valve timing...according to the averages posted on fuelly.com they are getting roughly 23-25 mpg. and that car is heavier than ours, and bigger than ours.

Now looking at the Honda Element....also powered by a 2.4 liter variable valave timing engine.....this is a giant brick.....and it big and its heavy and its more of a brick than the cruizer could ever imagine being.....their users are getting 21-23 mpg average......and all these motors are rated at 150-160 hp with similar torque ratings just like our motor.....what gives.

most of these vehciles are also automatic....but I do think most are 5 speed autos not 4 speed again....an area of new technoloogy that's been around for a while that chrysler/dodge failed to provide us.

now looking at the performance version of this motor you have the Acura TSX....also sporting a 2.4 liter engine....the difference is this one has variable valve timing and variable cam timing....it also has a much higher compression ratio and an 8k rpm redline....thus making up to 200hp and 160-ish torque.
in a car that is 3,400-3,500Lbs.
according to fuelly.com average owners see between 26-28 mpg.

to me the numbers speak for themselves, with the technology that is and was readily available at and during the entire production run of the cruiser chrysler/dodge gipped us.

not to mention the hondas have a TON of smog legal performance products out there.....people are out there making 32 mpg in a 3,000 pound car that also makes over 300 hp naturally aspriated.
I don't mean to come across as a honda-phile, but I can't help it when I hear stories like this.

I will say this..... I am really glad chrysler/dodge decided to add a turbo model for the cruiser I think that is defiently a plus for them but the engine tech is such a huge negative its a hard one to over come. and again not to many people want to make performance products for it...luckily alot of stuff can be bororrowed from srt-4 performance companies but again some of ti can't due to fittamint and clearnace issues in teh pt....

ohh boy that got long ok end rant for a while LOL.
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Old 17 Aug 2011, 11:21 pm
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You may get an extra MPG w/ Synthetic Oil. I purchase Quaker State at Walmart for $20 plus you can increase your oil change interval. I usually get 20 city and 25 or better highway. The turbo doesn't have to down shift (A/T) on hills. I would probably do better with the top up and driving slower (not happening). I sometimes us my daughter's 09 Altima that gets about 30 highway, but that has a CVT.

Driving habits really effect MPG. Coasting to stop signs and red lights will definitely help.
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Old 18 Aug 2011, 04:33 am
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I have only had my 2006 automatic PT Cruiser for a little ove a month. It has 23,000 miles on it and I have been getting about 23-25 MPG. Two weeks ago, when we had the very hot 90+ temps, I used the air conditioner and the mileage really dropped. I wish the car was a 5 speed in which I could nurse a few more MPG. I would think the fastest and simple way to get a little more MPG is to remove the rear seats and store them in the garage, unless you have a large family. At least it wouldn't cost you anything.
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Old 18 Aug 2011, 06:47 am
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I would contend the fastest way to save on gas would be not to drive LOL.

lately I have been trying to bike as much as possible too and form work since I only live like 5 miles away from work.

I have 2 vehicles the pt cruiser and a 1975 gmc 350 v8 pickup.

my roomie and I share the vehicles.
before biking I was using the truck when he would be using the pt.
we were filling up the pt about once a week and once every other week the truck. So close to 5 or 6 fill ups a month.
both the truck and pt pretty much have a 15 gallon tank. At around 50-60 bucks a fill up depending on if the oil prices are getting jack up or not.

now with biking and just using the pt, haven't had to run the truck so it hasn't been filled for nearly a month now....
pt is still being filled up around 4 times a month.....(wish I could figure out how to get that down to roughly just 3 times a month).
thats a good cost savings.....just another month of this and the bike will be payed for and then its saved cash from there.

but yea driving habits and vehicle mainteance I think are the biggest factors for vehicle mpg. I still think that chrysler should've put more tech into the pt's motor than they did, kinda help us out a bit but ohh well. we have what we have right and unfortunetly/fortuntely we love them LOL.
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Old 18 Aug 2011, 11:03 am
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Get a 5-speed.
Same in Neons, 32 MAX auto, 38-41 MTX
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Old 14 Oct 2011, 10:48 pm
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Well I have an 04 and I do combo driving and average 21mpg. The only thing that bugs me is my 99merc tracer got 32 combo and my ither current car is a Drand caravan gets the same as my PT. I also discovered run premium no ethanol and milage is better
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Shoulda got a diesel
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Old 14 Oct 2011, 11:16 pm
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I guess I have been driving V8's to long. I commented to my wife today that it seems like the PT gets pretty good gas milage. Hand calculated today we got a little over 22MPG's, mix of city and highway teaching a 15 year old to drive. Not bad at all I didn't think. I had even stomped on it a few times when I was by myself, had to blow the carbon out of it as my dad use to say
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Old 08 Dec 2011, 11:26 pm
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I have discovered no ethanol premium improves milage
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Old 09 Dec 2011, 09:56 am
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The no ethanol part - by a small, but measurable amount. Perhaps 3%. But unless it is a GT turbo - the premium part is just draining your pocketbook. Premium fuel is harder to combust than regular, and putting it in a non-modded non-turbo is just wasting your money.
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