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Old 12 Aug 2014, 03:53 pm
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Check out this photo and it kind of becomes clearer. If the crankshaft stayed exactly where it is in the photo and if the timing belt was just a little shorter on the left side, the cam gears would each have to rotate counter clockwise ever so slightly. And then all the timing marks would line up:

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Old 12 Aug 2014, 03:57 pm
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I agree with Busted. It looks like it is a tooth off. I can understand what Nitro and handy are saying about rotating but then the lines will not be straight across and the crank will be off.

Look at the picture again. Since the teeth on the wheel are fixed, if you rotate the exhaust cam exactly one tooth we can just imagine the timing line on the tooth above in the picture. Then we can imagine the engine rotated clockwise by a miniscule amount and it would line up exactly. This will yield a much closer result for all gears especially the crank.
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Old 12 Aug 2014, 03:58 pm
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Just wanted to see how far this conversation was going to go before I mentioned to "LOOK CLOSER at the PICTURE!

There is more going on with this PT than has been mentioned by the owner.

What no one else can see it?


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Old 12 Aug 2014, 04:00 pm
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well I dont but i like the teal color arrows
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Old 12 Aug 2014, 04:08 pm
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Here is a pic with the tooth moved up one. It should be clearer.
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Check out this photo and it kind of becomes clearer. If the crankshaft stayed exactly where it is in the photo and if the timing belt was just a little shorter on the left side, the cam gears would each have to rotate counter clockwise ever so slightly. And then all the timing marks would line up:

Handy I do get the theory but if note the crank mark and the cams lineup through the centerline of the bolts and the slack should be on the tensioner side then only one cam is out of alignment. At reach would involve both cams. You need only to move the exhaust counter clockwise one tooth to achieve perfect line up. You couldn't do that if it was just belt stretch. Put a straight edge across the cam bolts. Says it all. If you rotate it as it is the crank will be off any the cams will be high of center line.
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Old 12 Aug 2014, 04:48 pm
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Why don't we get the OP to rotate the engine a little and post another picture?

After all it is OUT of the PT and sitting on the ground of his garage so it should be very east to do?

I did say that there was more going on than what was being told in the beginning!


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Just wanted to see how far this conversation was going to go before I mentioned to "LOOK CLOSER at the PICTURE!

There is more going on with this PT than has been mentioned by the owner.

What no one else can see it?


I'm still kinda new to PT's & the shop replaced my belt...but everyone is talking about the cams being off 1 tooth but no one has mentioned that the crank is also off 1 tooth.
Of course I could be completely wrong & it might get a laugh.
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I'm still kinda new to PT's & the shop replaced my belt...but everyone is talking about the cams being off 1 tooth but no one has mentioned that the crank is also off 1 tooth.
Of course I could be completely wrong & it might get a laugh.
where do I start? I think I will just

If this engine pictured here or anyone's else was a tooth off you would experience a noticeable lack of power. A simple compression test would show regular and even low compression in all the cylinders. You should activate but not always a DTC or multiple DTCs .Your fuel mileage would go down and ultimately you would join a PT Cruiser forum without an introduction and use its regular and knowledge members for help. After which solving your problem without thanks and not to be herd from again until another self unsolvable issue pops up.
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I already knew it was out of the pt. Is that what you mean? Tensioner is loose and cover is broken. And even on my computer the exhaust is still off. Intake and crank are on the marks. So I don't get what the hoopla is about. I don't think this is an original belt on this engine. With a bigger picture it would appear that the crank is the one out a tooth. Not that thats a biggie. It's still out of time and would be corrected with a belt change.
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