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Old 08 Jan 2004, 03:17 am
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Default BTG vs Eibach Springs

Have read many posts about lowering springs and think I have it narrowed down to BTG or Eibach, but have several questions / concerns:
1. Will ride quality suffer too much for daily commuter with either set?
2. Am I in constant danger of scraping the front end?
3. Have read posts of scraping or rubbing (bottoming out?) rear tires with 4 adults in car?
4. Occasionally have need to haul 160-200 lbs of bagged salt...will this present any problems?
5. Last... BTG pricing is very aggressive/tempting ($140), so are Eibachs that much better?

Any and all input / experiences appreciated. Thanks
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Old 08 Jan 2004, 03:23 am
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I'm in the same boat as far as deciding between the BTG and
Eibach springs. I'm leaning towards the Eibachs since I can
get a package deal of Koni shocks/struts and Eibach Pro-kit
springs from for $649.

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Old 08 Jan 2004, 08:49 am
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Depends on how low you go. I lowered rear only - either 1.5 or 2" (I forget), so my answers are thus qualified:
1) No
2) Yes - it's another reason I did rear only, besides, I didn't like the "Butt in the air" look.
3) Yes - but not that much worse than stock, and only over sharp bumps taken too fast.
4) SHouldn't - I hauled a back full of firewood (back seats folded & tumbled) with now problem - I'd estimate 350 pounds.
5) Dunno. I have "redline" - they're just springs.

if you do "slammer" spings (3" drop) expect more grief.
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Old 08 Jan 2004, 12:19 pm
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i have eibach in my cruiser. i don't bottom out with 4 adults in my car. my subwoofers and both my amps don't drag my car down. i scrub my front once and awhile coming out of driveways thast are steep. i have scrubbed my exhaust once going over a speed bump due to me not slowing down.
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Old 08 Jan 2004, 01:00 pm
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I'm leaning toward Suspension techniques springs. I'm looking for better handling with minimal lowering (don't want to be a snow plow in the winter). They lower 1.3 inches front & rear. They should work well with the Koni shocks....
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Old 08 Jan 2004, 01:50 pm
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I have Eibach springs front and rear and it is by far the best mod that I have done. Lowering helps in a couple of ways:1. the stance of the car is way better visually, less distance from tire to fender opening, closer to the ground all around, the rake is reduced some because Eibachs lower the rear end more and 2. handling is improved because the car corners flatter.
The ride is a little stiffer but you can feel the road better.They are progressive springs, they get stiffer as the load gets heavier, I have had four adults in the car with no problem (and one of them was a 300 pounder). Once in a while a speed bump or a steep road or driveway transition can present a challenge but one soon learns how to handle them. All in all, as I said earlier,The best mod that I have made by far.
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Old 08 Jan 2004, 09:16 pm
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My PT has the BTG springs. I don't know about quality, maybe they are almost same as Eibach. But, BTG drops the front more than the back, so the slope is still there, but anyway I like that better than for it to be "flat". I think for scraping front and bottom and having 4 adults, main thing is to learn to drive into the driveways and around the bumps then it is not a big problem. At first I scraped a lot in front and hit the bottom, but now I got used to it so it doesn't happen too much except when I'm driving too fast!
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Old 09 Jan 2004, 01:52 am
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...I lower cars every day at my shop and have changed the suspension on every vehicle (84 cars and trucks to date) that I have owned over the last 35 years. I went with the whole BTG suspension (springs, shocks and struts) and I have yet to find any thing close to the quality of this stuff. The Cruiser now does what it looks it should be doing already! No bottoming, no creeks, no rubbing.. and the ride IMPROVED 50%.. they fit right and look right. I run the car up to the speed limiter (130 MPH) at Nashville Speedway often, before I tried it and was white nuckled after 95 mph now I drive it at the limiter with one hand. God I'll be glad when the limiter is gone, I really do think a modified turbo cruiser has a pretty good top end. The shocks and struts are made shorter for the lowered springs. If you don't change struts and shocks all you got is a lower car actually handling worse than it was, it appears to improve cause it's stiffer... not more controlled!. Most don't realize but if you take the original rake out of the car you ruin the turn in on the front suspension, makes front wheel drive handle much worse. A set of sway bars are in the works made by the same company and will be ready soon I understand...I promised I would not reveal the manufacturer of this stuff and I won't. But I also installed hub-centric wheel spacers front and rear for a much better look and compounded the already fabulous driving improvement. Do a little research and think... the same manufacturer also made the spacers, it will be easy to figure out. The whole kit was branded with the manufacturer name (not BTG) when they arrived and it had their part numbers also. I wish BTG gave me the parts for pushing 'em... they don't, I would still buy BTG if they were much more expensive. Just giving some solid feed back on this subject....
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Old 09 Jan 2004, 02:20 am
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I used Eibach's. had them on my 01. With stock struts, you'll find more suspension travel, which is why you may want to consider getting stiffer shocks. I have stock struts, but later added the rear and front eibach sways. I am much more satisfied with this.
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Old 09 Jan 2004, 03:08 pm
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quote:Originally posted by earringboy

... But I also installed hub-centric wheel spacers front and rear for a much better look and compounded the already fabulous driving improvement. Do a little research and think... the same manufacturer also made the spacers, it will be easy to figure out.
Earringboy, I'm looking into installing some spacers on my car. What thickness did you put on yours???...So far the MFG that made spacers for the PT that I found was H&R, but they only had 1" spacers avail., I need thinner ones. I have so many questions to ask.....
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